too expensive for its current role

and not survivable in its projected role

Tanks are actually a bit old fashioned, I'd say

and, only you would say

They'll just get taken out by hand held AT

no one else who is responsible for the role would say

Or any plane

right, chap with AT gets slotted by dismounted infantry flanking the approach of armour

I mean real AT

plane gets shot down by opposing airforce or battlefield air defence

Not the ones you'll have to flank to use

real AT gets suppressed by artillery

ikea, I've dropped enough hints at mo

time for you to get a clue

I think we're on different subjects

I'm talking about the need of tanks

And how it's a bit old fashioned

no one really envisions ANY system to opreate in solation on its own

combined arms

I know that

no one is advocating that tanks are obsolete

I'd say they might soon be

doubt it

Especially when you look at how much a single tank might cost

again look at trends

no one (who counts for shit) is giving up their tanks

downsizing yes, not replacing with newer designs yes

giving up? no

<-- its nearly 3am, need more booze .... fuck

I'm not advocating for people to give up

on their tanks

But that they're changing roles

not suggesting you are, I'm telling you to look at trends

Tanks are getting more difficult to kill.

Easier* to kill

well potentially they have moved back to infantry tankjs

but thats because we're not fighting teh russians

They're getting harder to protect

Depends who you are up against really.

Yes, an Abrams is hard to kill

as is chally