Message from @F.Pazuzu

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2019-02-01 10:19:52 UTC  

Fuck that.

2019-02-01 10:20:14 UTC  

FUCK that that should be criminal

2019-02-01 10:27:41 UTC  

The state is a terrorist organization.

2019-02-01 10:28:27 UTC  

Everything it does is criminal. It's very existence is criminal.

2019-02-01 12:43:02 UTC  

Let's discuss that

2019-02-01 12:43:38 UTC  

The state uses force to enforce laws, but without laws, warlords will run rampant

2019-02-01 12:44:05 UTC  

A community can only grow so much until a government is eventually formed

2019-02-01 14:02:47 UTC  

Not at all. Private law and litigation is something that has been done for centuries on many countries. From Brehon Law to Maritime Law, to Medieval Iceland to even English Common Law.

2019-02-01 14:06:37 UTC  

The idea that without laws warlords would run rampant is just not true. The lawlessness experienced in African nations is much more due to the extent and scope of corruption as well as the incentives present there. Simply put, it's much more a matter of the state distorting the interactions between peoples as well as the colonial imposition of a central power than the absence of the enforcement of laws.

2019-02-01 15:59:56 UTC  

I didn't refer to african warlords per-se, just speaking in general terms, referring to warlords as individuals who have the means to attain resources via violence.

2019-02-01 16:00:38 UTC  

How is it untrue? Doesn't it all ultimately boil down into a contest of the guy with the bigger stick setting up a government?

2019-02-01 16:01:21 UTC  

Am I missing something here?

2019-02-01 16:05:23 UTC  

That would be the case if people couldn't defend themselves and voluntarily join forces to ensure their safety, as well as setting up private security companies to protect their property and that of those who wish to hire them.

2019-02-01 16:06:11 UTC  

Ultimately, the services the government provides would still be provided, the difference is that it would be decentralized and adherence would be voluntary rather than compulsory

2019-02-01 16:06:53 UTC  

Customs and culture would have a much bigger impact than legislation

2019-02-01 16:09:00 UTC  

I see

2019-02-01 16:09:44 UTC  

Wouldn't putting power in the hands of PSCs be a bad idea since they can just take over?

2019-02-01 16:10:20 UTC  

What's stopping them from starting a state themselves? Taxation is an easy way to earn money, after all.

2019-02-01 16:10:37 UTC  

Easier to claim that you own a mountain and expect its residents to pay up.

2019-02-01 16:11:03 UTC  

Even easier when you have weapons to hold them under threat of death

2019-02-01 16:42:26 UTC  

not if everyone is as able to defend themselves as the security firms themselves, not to mention that companies tend to want to grow, and pulling this kind of shit would be a hinderance to that, not to mention that there's the issue of legitimacy. currently, legitimacy is given to the state because of the consensus that is created by an educational system the reinforces the necessity of the state, if that consensus and recognition goes out of the window, the formation of the state would be much more difficult. there's also the matter that unless those private firms prevent people from moving, there is nothing stopping them from purchasing property or homesteading elsewhere.

2019-02-01 16:43:56 UTC  

think how the rich and those who are able to quickly remove their assets and move away once things go awry in increasingly socialist countries, it's like that but the standards to have that happen would be much lower

2019-02-01 17:05:06 UTC  

We can never evolve as a nation until we produce a Paul walker statue in every home of fratties and frat parties everywhere

2019-02-01 17:05:10 UTC  
2019-02-01 21:24:52 UTC  

what a fucking time to be alive

2019-02-01 21:25:05 UTC  

what a fucking coutnry scotalnd is

2019-02-01 21:25:31 UTC  

>man gets convicted of making a ""grossly offensive joke" and gets fined 800 pounds with a potential of over a year behind bars

2019-02-01 21:26:04 UTC  

>disgusting teenager who molested a 6 year old girl walks free with no punishment

2019-02-01 21:33:37 UTC  

hey what do you expect

2019-02-01 21:33:55 UTC  

far lefties want everyone who makes offensive jokes dead and pedophiles praised for bravery in the same way as gays

2019-02-01 21:34:17 UTC  

this is disgusting, horrific behavior
but completely unsurprising

2019-02-01 21:34:21 UTC  

this is their utopia

2019-02-01 21:35:25 UTC  

I'm offended by the left.

2019-02-01 22:00:45 UTC  

is that even lefties

2019-02-01 22:00:57 UTC  

or is it the retarded scottish court system

2019-02-01 22:01:48 UTC  

bit of noth

2019-02-01 22:01:50 UTC  

both

2019-02-01 22:03:02 UTC  

Oof

2019-02-01 22:03:50 UTC  

tbh

2019-02-01 22:03:54 UTC  

as a 16 year old