Message from @Maddy_Zabbara
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But in order to acomplish this it would require a planned economy, otherwise corporations will compete with each other and driving people into unemployment
the government would take all the extra resources wasted on competition in society and instead use them to further humanity's technological progress
@Blackhawk342 how would this be communist?
How would a society with a planned economy and prioritizing the well being of workers above company success be communist?
You said that families provide for each other and that you would like companies to do the same
That would expand to the rest of society and communities as a whole because you cant rely on companies to do everything
at the same time that would necessitate popular control of companies because worker well being is usually balanced with profits
if profits are no longer the priority then executives and higher ups at a company are effectively dead weight
these companies would need to fit into a larger economic picture because the society is grounded in facts
Fact is that duplicate products are a waste of humanity's resources and focus
Why have 300 kinds of cheese when you can make 5 kinds and redirect the resources used for the other 295 kinds into other areas that are more important?
@Analytical Chick dafuq are you salty about?
What makes you think I'm alt right?
This necessitates a planned economy because the government needs to ensure that people's needs are met and there are a very limited number of businesses to do the job
On top of that you said you would limit death as much as possible focusing on suicides, homicides and health
Solution to that is a totalitarian police state that monitor's peoples every move and thought even inside of their homes
Cant get away with crimes if the police know where you are 24/7
Cant make poor health choices if the government bans and removes all harmful products from the market
Suicides wouldnt happen if the state had a group of psychologists with access to recordings of everyone during all waking hours
Now take all the wasted physical resources spent on duplicate products/excessive luxuries and put it toward science
Combine that with the previously wasted focus and humanity will live like the Jetsons in no time
@Blackhawk342 I think you misunderstood. The well being of the worker would not come at the expense of the business’ success. Labor just wouldn’t be seen as resources and more profits would go to the worker.
You would still have class structure so I’m not sure where this idea of communism comes from
If the only risk is not having a job then I don't think "the workers" deserve any more share of teh proffits
Why would there be fewer jobs?
Because people are being paid more?
I think you are misrepresenting the concept
People should still be paid based on their value. But proportionality is a factor
The well being of the worker requires money either from the company, their community or the worker themselves
If its coming from the company then it is at the expense of the company's success which is measured in profits
It can also come from the profits themselves. Case and point, the CEO of Nintendo cut his salary after the WiiU flopped
Japanese corporate culture is a bit different. I don’t think US business culture is the only way to look at things.
and did their workers see an increase in pay following his cut?
Not sure. Either that or company expenses. In either case it should not be looked down upon if CEOs cut their own profits.
There is no real negative effects to the business simply because that money wasn’t going to the business in the first place. It was going to the individual
Does that mean you expect executives to take paycuts across the board before redirecting funds to lower level employees?
Jesse is really great sometimes:
https://youtu.be/APm-egYzaUU
What? No, not every executive.
You appear to be viewing my proposal through the lenses of “anti-socialist” propaganda.
The concept of seeing people as family rather than resources would be a cultural additude. Pay cutting is just one avenue
As of 2016 that is the current corporate culture