Message from @Maddy_Zabbara

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2019-02-05 00:03:20 UTC  

Well "educated" people likely, but not too many wealthy poeple wonder how to give away their money. they just donate to charities they like or found their own...

2019-02-05 00:04:51 UTC  

The Bill and Melinda foundation was very well thought out.

2019-02-05 00:05:30 UTC  

But they are giving away everything except 1 billion if I am not mistaken

2019-02-05 00:05:44 UTC  

Good, now answer the question

2019-02-05 00:05:56 UTC  

And they are freee to do whatever thye want with their money.... You however have no right to MAKE them

2019-02-05 00:06:01 UTC  

Bill and Melinda are not socialist

2019-02-05 00:06:07 UTC  

Not that question

2019-02-05 00:06:31 UTC  

Blackhawk342Today at 5:57 PM
Ok yes but why do the workers at space ex deserve the money from projects musk did before he hired them?

2019-02-05 00:07:04 UTC  

More specifically, why do they deserve more than they agreed to accept as pay for their work?

2019-02-05 00:07:11 UTC  

I have mentioned this several times. It wasn’t just him. It was the other $50,000 people

2019-02-05 00:07:15 UTC  

50,000

2019-02-05 00:07:29 UTC  

and this somehow entitles them to his profit from selling paypal?

2019-02-05 00:07:35 UTC  

Who cares how many people. Why do they deserve MORE than they AGREED to accept??

2019-02-05 00:08:25 UTC  

"I'm not a marxist, but I agree with everything he said"

2019-02-05 00:08:42 UTC  

Because they do a proportional amount of work

2019-02-05 00:08:57 UTC  

Why do they deserve MORE than they AGREED to accept??

2019-02-05 00:09:40 UTC  

Your pay is not based on your value. It’s based on what the company can get away with.

2019-02-05 00:09:52 UTC  

Who forced them to accept?

2019-02-05 00:10:01 UTC  

Who made them work for less?

2019-02-05 00:10:11 UTC  

Who held them as slaves to work

2019-02-05 00:10:14 UTC  

No one?

2019-02-05 00:10:18 UTC  

@RekItRalph define value.

2019-02-05 00:10:20 UTC  

It’s not about force. It’s about limited opportunities

2019-02-05 00:10:38 UTC  

A Workers value is what both they and their employer agree to their value

2019-02-05 00:12:11 UTC  

Value is determined by the consumer. The value of their labor is determined by the employer. Surprise surprise, the employer will try to make the value of labor as low as possible.

2019-02-05 00:12:40 UTC  

That's price.

2019-02-05 00:12:59 UTC  

Price is set by the vendor and accepted or rejected by the consumer

2019-02-05 00:13:01 UTC  

The US culture values people based on how much money they have rather than what they have actually produced.

2019-02-05 00:13:20 UTC  

Individuals value things individually.

2019-02-05 00:13:24 UTC  

Consumer demand influences the price

2019-02-05 00:13:38 UTC  

Nothing stops an employee from asking for more money, and workers that are actually worth more will get it

2019-02-05 00:13:38 UTC  

Employers are a consumer of labour.

2019-02-05 00:14:06 UTC  

We need a culture that idolizes people based on what they produce rather than what they take home.

2019-02-05 00:14:26 UTC  

lol

2019-02-05 00:14:39 UTC  

And stealing money from people/companies will get us there?

2019-02-05 00:14:40 UTC  

ok ill bite

2019-02-05 00:14:50 UTC  

why do we "need" a culture focused around what people produce?

2019-02-05 00:14:51 UTC  

Case and point, Trump has more money than Linus Torvalds. Linus invented the Kernal that is used on most major server infrastructures

2019-02-05 00:15:14 UTC  

Linus has produced more but he’s not as “valuable”

2019-02-05 00:15:27 UTC  

He shoudl have valued himself more...

2019-02-05 00:15:37 UTC  

No one will value you more than you value yourself