Message from @Maddy_Zabbara
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Why do you keep bringing up socialism and marxisim?
You would still have class structure
You guys have truly drunk the koolaid
So are you a fascist then?
You should describe what facisim is for the rest of us
Then tell me why that is facist
Well if it's not marxism, the only other thing i can think of that fits what you're describing is fascism.
Once your able to explain why these workers deserve part of their employer's wealth from things he did before hiring them we can move one
You have an oversimplified view of political philosophy
Anarcho-primativism?
Set aside all labels. There is no excuse for "taking 20 BILL from Elon musk and redistrubing it to anyone" If his workers want more moneya nd they think they are worth it then they should renegotiate with their employers.... Otherwise they agreed to a fair wage
The kinds of conversations I have are quite common among wealthy and educated people. Where are you getting these ideas of socialism from? Do you guys get all your news from YouTube?
No, i get it from people who call themselves socialists and communists
Yes, the 1% wants socialism, doesn't that ring any alarm bells??
Well "educated" people likely, but not too many wealthy poeple wonder how to give away their money. they just donate to charities they like or found their own...
The Bill and Melinda foundation was very well thought out.
But they are giving away everything except 1 billion if I am not mistaken
Good, now answer the question
And they are freee to do whatever thye want with their money.... You however have no right to MAKE them
Bill and Melinda are not socialist
Not that question
Blackhawk342Today at 5:57 PM
Ok yes but why do the workers at space ex deserve the money from projects musk did before he hired them?
More specifically, why do they deserve more than they agreed to accept as pay for their work?
I have mentioned this several times. It wasn’t just him. It was the other $50,000 people
50,000
and this somehow entitles them to his profit from selling paypal?
Who cares how many people. Why do they deserve MORE than they AGREED to accept??
"I'm not a marxist, but I agree with everything he said"
Because they do a proportional amount of work
Why do they deserve MORE than they AGREED to accept??
Your pay is not based on your value. It’s based on what the company can get away with.
Who forced them to accept?
Who made them work for less?
Who held them as slaves to work
No one?
@RekItRalph define value.
It’s not about force. It’s about limited opportunities
A Workers value is what both they and their employer agree to their value
Value is determined by the consumer. The value of their labor is determined by the employer. Surprise surprise, the employer will try to make the value of labor as low as possible.