Message from @Maddy_Zabbara
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50,000
and this somehow entitles them to his profit from selling paypal?
Who cares how many people. Why do they deserve MORE than they AGREED to accept??
"I'm not a marxist, but I agree with everything he said"
Because they do a proportional amount of work
Why do they deserve MORE than they AGREED to accept??
Your pay is not based on your value. It’s based on what the company can get away with.
Who forced them to accept?
Who made them work for less?
Who held them as slaves to work
No one?
@RekItRalph define value.
It’s not about force. It’s about limited opportunities
A Workers value is what both they and their employer agree to their value
Value is determined by the consumer. The value of their labor is determined by the employer. Surprise surprise, the employer will try to make the value of labor as low as possible.
That's price.
Price is set by the vendor and accepted or rejected by the consumer
The US culture values people based on how much money they have rather than what they have actually produced.
Individuals value things individually.
Consumer demand influences the price
Nothing stops an employee from asking for more money, and workers that are actually worth more will get it
Employers are a consumer of labour.
We need a culture that idolizes people based on what they produce rather than what they take home.
lol
And stealing money from people/companies will get us there?
ok ill bite
why do we "need" a culture focused around what people produce?
Case and point, Trump has more money than Linus Torvalds. Linus invented the Kernal that is used on most major server infrastructures
Linus has produced more but he’s not as “valuable”
He shoudl have valued himself more...
No one will value you more than you value yourself
You seem to have the value system all figured out
You literally just conflated vaue and monetary worth. How do you know linus didn't get more value than trump?
I kinda do, you seem to be the one missing the point
Liberalism is not compatible with technological progress. It wasn’t designed to be
Kek
That’s actually common knowledge
Anarcho-primitivism is peak technological progress guys.
Why are you so reluctant to try snd learn?
Learn what?
Tim Pol is open minded. I was sort of expecting the same from you guys