Message from @Vril-Gesellschaft

Discord ID: 545675471216443392


2019-02-14 18:31:34 UTC  

Likewise in a nation of converts the dictator cannot go too far, as the church would protest

2019-02-14 18:31:39 UTC  

Satanist propaganda.

2019-02-14 18:31:46 UTC  

this keeps stability, and we've seen how well it did in antiquity

2019-02-14 18:31:59 UTC  

This isn't satanism, it's orthodox Christianity of the original church.

2019-02-14 18:32:27 UTC  

The state upholds the law of heaven and God, but they also keep borders and manage other functions which the church cannot do.

2019-02-14 18:33:28 UTC  

What did Hitler do wrong?

2019-02-14 18:34:00 UTC  

is the bible literal fact, or stories meant to pass on lessons? @Vril-Gesellschaft

2019-02-14 18:34:06 UTC  

Nothing really, he did what he could with the resources and time he had.

2019-02-14 18:34:20 UTC  

@Aero it depends, hermeneutics isn't as simple as "literal or analogy"

2019-02-14 18:34:41 UTC  

sometimes it's literal, sometimes it's not, we generally defer to the churchfathers on this issue as an authority in canon, but we can also use personal reason of sorts

2019-02-14 18:35:26 UTC  

for example Christ often gives parables which give both literal and analogous lessons to morality

2019-02-14 18:35:37 UTC  

simultaneously

2019-02-14 18:37:41 UTC  

Not share tech with allies

2019-02-14 18:37:56 UTC  

Constantly invest into random superweapons

2019-02-14 18:38:17 UTC  

@Aero @Vril-Gesellschaft The Campbell perspective is that the Bible is a mix of Parable Moral Stories and oral history... For the Absolutely faithful, the oral history is 100% true and accurate.

2019-02-14 18:38:28 UTC  

superweapons was looking for a less disastrous ending to plutocracy than atom bombs

2019-02-14 18:38:35 UTC  

honestly, knowing this is what you think, we're just gonna have to agree to disagree. I can't really get behind pretty much anything you've said in the last half hour... except maybe what we were talking about in basic economics.

2019-02-14 18:38:42 UTC  

override the opinions of his generals on multiple occasions which directly lead to disaster

2019-02-14 18:38:42 UTC  

which I believe they had, as italian intelligence attests to prior to the Americans

2019-02-14 18:39:27 UTC  

thanks for sharing your prospective though!

2019-02-14 18:39:30 UTC  

That is a myth, most of the dumb decisions were done by the generals. Hitler actually had little operational control over the east planned out. The only thing he did was grab stalingrad, but this was actually strategically about oil/

2019-02-14 18:40:00 UTC  

@Aero Federist economic policy will eventually lead you to agree with the other stuff. It's irrefutably perfect as a system to remove modern plutocracy.

2019-02-14 18:40:11 UTC  

I am open to any better ideas, but tbh there are none so far as I've seen.

2019-02-14 18:40:15 UTC  

Ill admit aen has been fresh air around here

2019-02-14 18:40:56 UTC  

However its like ppl are never happy, they always wanna start shit. Like how the japanese left china.

2019-02-14 18:40:58 UTC  

the general overrides were in the cases of superweapons mostly

2019-02-14 18:41:02 UTC  

nazi gang gang 😎

2019-02-14 18:41:04 UTC  

i'll see what i can do in drumming up something better than oppressing people under the book and state...

2019-02-14 18:41:13 UTC  

Couldnt just build tigers, had to build king tigers

2019-02-14 18:41:17 UTC  

lol I don't want to "oppress" people

2019-02-14 18:41:36 UTC  

I want to limit people's ability to do degenerate things. Such as for example advocate for child tranny operations.

2019-02-14 18:41:53 UTC  

I just think that aen is right on paper but not in practice.

2019-02-14 18:42:01 UTC  

why not in practice?

2019-02-14 18:42:08 UTC  

There needs to be room for mistakes

2019-02-14 18:42:15 UTC  

there is, as I said we have failsafes

2019-02-14 18:42:17 UTC  

i figure you didn't, but the policies required to enact such a church-state equilibrium will inherently lead to corruption. just because you are a church leader, doesn't mean you are infallible.

2019-02-14 18:42:33 UTC  

gun rights, church collaboration preventing outrageous policy making by dictator, and volkish principle ensuring all policy is made for benefit of race

2019-02-14 18:42:41 UTC  

Ima keep watching the convo see where it goes but this is interesting

2019-02-14 18:44:04 UTC  

Well imo the way to temper corruption is to create a new aristocracy and status incentive system based on honor. So the money demand minimization aspect is a big part of this. We lower money demand to sufficient levels to ensure plutocrats have no power, then afterwards replace the current so called "nobility" with a real one based on intellectual, moral, and militaristic merit. People who actually sacrifice for their country, and who are loyal to God and morals.

2019-02-14 18:44:19 UTC  

After this we can work on corruption by creating system wide eugenics policies

2019-02-14 18:44:36 UTC  

which I believe would improve moral predisposition of the race in general in a few generations, so it would only take really one or two generations of rulers