Message from @Vril-Gesellschaft
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Science is amoral.
yes, which is the problem, there is no ascendancy principle
simply finding shit out is retarded because certain paths diverge into dangerous technologies which can end civilization (ai as example)
btw regulating technologies like nanotech, ai etc will require dictatorship or absolute monarchy
so either way we are necessary to the current structure and tech of society
Honestly can't tell if you're shitposting.
I'd have to get more into moral philosophy myself, but reading some chinese literature makes me think that there is no truly moral way of thinking that will not change in the future.
There is, it's called traditional Christianity in league with an authoritarian state.
Blasphemy.
I'm not shitposting. I reject all modern liberal ideas.
I genuinely think that enlightenment was the worst thing to happen to Europe.
Actually this is a prot American bullshit idea of separation of church and state. In trad Christianity state collaborates with church in symphonia.
They work together, where on upholds theological rules the other extends the sword to prevent degeneracy and keep social order.
so... you're for a Theocracy?
this prevents any king or dictator from going too far
No, it's a synergy of state and church working together.
Neither has dominance over other. A theocracy would be church run.
by virtue of the commandments of christianity, a state cannot hold equal authority to the book.
there is no 'working together'
I believe in the interim we need a transitional period of neo absolutism, or third position dictatorship with a religious focus.
The existence of a state violates the commandments.
@Aero The state upholds moral law, but it has final say on other matters.
In Christianity all rulers are ultimately given authority from heaven. Even the bad ones. So the church must respect the state.
Likewise in a nation of converts the dictator cannot go too far, as the church would protest
Satanist propaganda.
this keeps stability, and we've seen how well it did in antiquity
This isn't satanism, it's orthodox Christianity of the original church.
The state upholds the law of heaven and God, but they also keep borders and manage other functions which the church cannot do.
What did Hitler do wrong?
is the bible literal fact, or stories meant to pass on lessons? @Vril-Gesellschaft
Nothing really, he did what he could with the resources and time he had.
@Aero it depends, hermeneutics isn't as simple as "literal or analogy"
sometimes it's literal, sometimes it's not, we generally defer to the churchfathers on this issue as an authority in canon, but we can also use personal reason of sorts
for example Christ often gives parables which give both literal and analogous lessons to morality
simultaneously
Not share tech with allies
Constantly invest into random superweapons
@Aero @Vril-Gesellschaft The Campbell perspective is that the Bible is a mix of Parable Moral Stories and oral history... For the Absolutely faithful, the oral history is 100% true and accurate.
superweapons was looking for a less disastrous ending to plutocracy than atom bombs
honestly, knowing this is what you think, we're just gonna have to agree to disagree. I can't really get behind pretty much anything you've said in the last half hour... except maybe what we were talking about in basic economics.