Message from @Vril-Gesellschaft

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2019-02-14 19:34:54 UTC  

almost all goods will be purchased for really cheap prices, and strong state will prevent any monopolistic or money hoarding practices

2019-02-14 19:35:24 UTC  

needed to do something. back for now.

wut happened o.o

2019-02-14 19:35:28 UTC  

What's wrong with hoarding money? That would also create deflation.

2019-02-14 19:35:31 UTC  

it's not arbitrary when you're using production based system, because it's not based in that system on market bid value as a function of just what someone speculates the value is, rather it's based on something tangible and real: production

2019-02-14 19:36:15 UTC  

frankly I think the more troubling aspect is the potential for corruption or the plutocracy maneuvering internationally to try to thwart the economic reforms from within

2019-02-14 19:36:32 UTC  

as we would be facing off these people as they run to Israel or Hong Kong

2019-02-14 19:37:21 UTC  

Is value objective or subjective?

2019-02-14 19:38:28 UTC  

The way you have everything set up, if one thing goes wrong, it all goes to hell

2019-02-14 19:38:58 UTC  

Beyond just economics

2019-02-14 19:39:06 UTC  

@halfthink objective, it's based on production

2019-02-14 19:39:24 UTC  

Commie.

2019-02-14 19:39:31 UTC  

nope, ns

2019-02-14 19:39:58 UTC  

we reject hegelian philosophy and hedonism equally

2019-02-14 19:40:08 UTC  

what he says is commie, you say is ns. they're the same thing. it's just the terms are mixed up frequently

2019-02-14 19:40:08 UTC  

both capitalism and communism are obvious failures

2019-02-14 19:40:24 UTC  

Because humans are failures

2019-02-14 19:40:30 UTC  

They're not the same thing, only people who are economically illiterate claim these things.

2019-02-14 19:40:35 UTC  

Nothing we make will ever be perfect

2019-02-14 19:40:43 UTC  

Not to mention philosophically illiterate.

2019-02-14 19:41:03 UTC  

Thinking value is objective implies pretty much all of Marxist theory.

2019-02-14 19:41:11 UTC  

I never said our system will be perfect, but it wont have trannies reading books to children or zionist lobbies starting trillion dollar wars. That's for sure.

2019-02-14 19:41:21 UTC  

people say it's the same because creating a true communist society requires one to go through an ns phase. the problem is... it never really grows OUT of the ns phase.

2019-02-14 19:41:57 UTC  

No, we reject marx's theory of value, because he wants to distribute the means of production physically. That is a violation of private property, which is a Christian principle "thou shall not steal". Remember the Christian element to the modern theory I propose.

2019-02-14 19:42:06 UTC  

Eventually population numbers, change of resource, foreign bodies will make change

2019-02-14 19:42:22 UTC  

We distribute production by currency.

2019-02-14 19:42:48 UTC  

This way we can have a proper theory of objective tangible value which is based in material reality, without imposing on private property rights without precedent.

2019-02-14 19:42:55 UTC  

It doesn't matter what Marx's theory of value was. Any theory of objective value implies pretty much all of marxism.

2019-02-14 19:43:07 UTC  

.... no this is high school tier memery

2019-02-14 19:43:32 UTC  

Value depends on the subject, not the object.

2019-02-14 19:43:32 UTC  

This shit predates marx

2019-02-14 19:43:38 UTC  

But then foreign trade comes in again.

2019-02-14 19:43:44 UTC  

Smith wrote about this.

2019-02-14 19:43:47 UTC  

Adam Smith was a red.

2019-02-14 19:44:00 UTC  

Why trade with your own country if igs better to trade somewhere else?

2019-02-14 19:44:09 UTC  

just want to make sure i understand you @halfthink : you're saying value is subjective?

2019-02-14 19:44:21 UTC  

meaning, an apple may be worth 1 dollar to one dude, and 2 dollars to another, right?

2019-02-14 19:44:27 UTC  

@My Preferred Pronoun Is Sama high time preference vrs low, we prefer long term stability over short term profit at expense of social order

2019-02-14 19:44:29 UTC  

Yes, value is subjective @Aero

2019-02-14 19:44:35 UTC  

yes, that is correct

2019-02-14 19:44:41 UTC  

in a fiat system this is correct

2019-02-14 19:44:47 UTC  

But you dont get to pick that