Message from @My Preferred Pronoun Is Sama

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2019-02-14 19:33:00 UTC  

this isn't total control of the economy, we merely intervene when there's corruption

2019-02-14 19:33:43 UTC  

How do you define corruption?

2019-02-14 19:33:46 UTC  

@halfthink no, because demand for money is based on the consumer price index, luxury goods would decrease in relative value if currency increased, which means higher living standard, which means lower demand for money

2019-02-14 19:34:23 UTC  

over time as automation and 3d printing make goods produced hyper quick, the relative price will go down so much that money will become virtually irrelevant

2019-02-14 19:34:52 UTC  

CPI is arbitrary, like every index.

2019-02-14 19:34:54 UTC  

almost all goods will be purchased for really cheap prices, and strong state will prevent any monopolistic or money hoarding practices

2019-02-14 19:35:24 UTC  

needed to do something. back for now.

wut happened o.o

2019-02-14 19:35:28 UTC  

What's wrong with hoarding money? That would also create deflation.

2019-02-14 19:35:31 UTC  

it's not arbitrary when you're using production based system, because it's not based in that system on market bid value as a function of just what someone speculates the value is, rather it's based on something tangible and real: production

2019-02-14 19:36:15 UTC  

frankly I think the more troubling aspect is the potential for corruption or the plutocracy maneuvering internationally to try to thwart the economic reforms from within

2019-02-14 19:36:32 UTC  

as we would be facing off these people as they run to Israel or Hong Kong

2019-02-14 19:37:21 UTC  

Is value objective or subjective?

2019-02-14 19:38:28 UTC  

The way you have everything set up, if one thing goes wrong, it all goes to hell

2019-02-14 19:38:58 UTC  

Beyond just economics

2019-02-14 19:39:06 UTC  

@halfthink objective, it's based on production

2019-02-14 19:39:24 UTC  

Commie.

2019-02-14 19:39:31 UTC  

nope, ns

2019-02-14 19:39:58 UTC  

we reject hegelian philosophy and hedonism equally

2019-02-14 19:40:08 UTC  

what he says is commie, you say is ns. they're the same thing. it's just the terms are mixed up frequently

2019-02-14 19:40:08 UTC  

both capitalism and communism are obvious failures

2019-02-14 19:40:24 UTC  

Because humans are failures

2019-02-14 19:40:30 UTC  

They're not the same thing, only people who are economically illiterate claim these things.

2019-02-14 19:40:35 UTC  

Nothing we make will ever be perfect

2019-02-14 19:40:43 UTC  

Not to mention philosophically illiterate.

2019-02-14 19:41:03 UTC  

Thinking value is objective implies pretty much all of Marxist theory.

2019-02-14 19:41:11 UTC  

I never said our system will be perfect, but it wont have trannies reading books to children or zionist lobbies starting trillion dollar wars. That's for sure.

2019-02-14 19:41:21 UTC  

people say it's the same because creating a true communist society requires one to go through an ns phase. the problem is... it never really grows OUT of the ns phase.

2019-02-14 19:41:57 UTC  

No, we reject marx's theory of value, because he wants to distribute the means of production physically. That is a violation of private property, which is a Christian principle "thou shall not steal". Remember the Christian element to the modern theory I propose.

2019-02-14 19:42:06 UTC  

Eventually population numbers, change of resource, foreign bodies will make change

2019-02-14 19:42:22 UTC  

We distribute production by currency.

2019-02-14 19:42:48 UTC  

This way we can have a proper theory of objective tangible value which is based in material reality, without imposing on private property rights without precedent.

2019-02-14 19:42:55 UTC  

It doesn't matter what Marx's theory of value was. Any theory of objective value implies pretty much all of marxism.

2019-02-14 19:43:07 UTC  

.... no this is high school tier memery

2019-02-14 19:43:32 UTC  

Value depends on the subject, not the object.

2019-02-14 19:43:32 UTC  

This shit predates marx

2019-02-14 19:43:38 UTC  

But then foreign trade comes in again.

2019-02-14 19:43:44 UTC  

Smith wrote about this.

2019-02-14 19:43:47 UTC  

Adam Smith was a red.

2019-02-14 19:44:00 UTC  

Why trade with your own country if igs better to trade somewhere else?

2019-02-14 19:44:09 UTC  

just want to make sure i understand you @halfthink : you're saying value is subjective?

2019-02-14 19:44:21 UTC  

meaning, an apple may be worth 1 dollar to one dude, and 2 dollars to another, right?