Message from @Cursed Spite

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2019-02-19 17:17:30 UTC  

4 chan loved that event. But yea, any political phrase is a dog whistle

2019-02-19 17:18:18 UTC  

Just some dog whistles can take you really far

2019-02-19 17:18:22 UTC  

all that matters is that it allows them to wield power. the truth of it is irrelevant. truth is whatever they need it to be at the moment. or nothing at all.

2019-02-19 17:18:46 UTC  

Truth is subjective

2019-02-19 17:19:02 UTC  

the only weapons that can be used against them are either manipulating their emotions, or wielding naked power against them.

2019-02-19 17:19:31 UTC  

no, you're subjective ...

2019-02-19 17:19:41 UTC  

Ill play devils advocate

2019-02-19 17:19:49 UTC  

just make fun of them, and use whatever institutional or legal power you can get.

2019-02-19 17:20:00 UTC  

Ill answer in the most lefty way possible

2019-02-19 17:20:28 UTC  

trying to convince them of something with objective fact, logic, reason, etc, is a waste of time and effort. equivalent to talking to a wall.

2019-02-19 17:21:36 UTC  

Ask me something ud wanna ask a lefty

2019-02-19 17:22:31 UTC  

"How do you intend to provide 15 billion people with a first world lifestyle?"

2019-02-19 17:24:31 UTC  

Autoratarian or liberal?

2019-02-19 17:26:07 UTC  

Ill jusy pick liberal

2019-02-19 17:28:24 UTC  

By opening borders you open the ideas of other people to each other and technologirs and science move faster country to country if we establish a one worls goverment. Thru centralization of a one world goverment, we can better identify the worlds problems as were able to have a mich larger pool of resources to handle problems at large. Just like how even the poorest have phones, the meeting of countries leads to poorly developed nations to prosper.

2019-02-19 17:32:28 UTC  

@Atkins. o3o ima parrot things that have been said to me, see where this goes

2019-02-19 17:38:56 UTC  

tasking one government with a myriad of issues makes them have to specialize in which case theyd have branches for x demographic and whatnot
you should just leave their independance so they can work without regulations in their way and deal with problems as efficiently as possible

2019-02-19 17:43:24 UTC  

But its clear that some countries are working againts the interest of making a better world, an example being a disregard of regulations. Leaving countries to their own independence would allow them to do actions againts the interest of the world

2019-02-19 17:46:13 UTC  

yes there are but there are also good countries. peace is not a given and who's best to defend a countrys interests than its own people

2019-02-19 17:46:44 UTC  

But that isnt guaranteed. Saying no plan is the best plan is illogical.

2019-02-19 17:47:50 UTC  

who is this bad country and how would one government solve this issue

2019-02-19 17:49:42 UTC  

Most countries do not act to the accordance of what is good for their own ppl

2019-02-19 17:50:25 UTC  

i agree and they never will, we always try to reach a democratic consensus on whats best for the majority unless its a tyrannical regime

2019-02-19 17:51:29 UTC  

in which case we're discussing foreign intervention matters

2019-02-19 17:51:42 UTC  

This is my political ideology

2019-02-19 17:51:57 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/509549100061163520/547475442853085244/fa207f80-3a22-48ac-82f0-8f8ba7dccf71.png

2019-02-19 17:54:21 UTC  

But eventually their countries will fill up and they will come here. When that time comes, are you willing to push them away with bullets?

2019-02-19 17:55:13 UTC  

Those failing countries will eventually come, it is only 1 earth afterall

2019-02-19 17:57:28 UTC  

im no saint to claim we can save the lives of every asylum seeker but i think we can do a better way of handling the whole situation and transparancy is key
dont goad them into crossing thousands of miles of water if we're not able to let them all in due to regulatory processes and give back power to the people

2019-02-19 17:57:48 UTC  

`: But eventually their countries will fill up and they will come here. When that time comes, are you willing to push them away with bullets?`
i've read 'Camp of the Saints'. and my answer is yes.

2019-02-19 17:58:36 UTC  

we are our civilisation and questioning how much blood is on our hands will always come to bite the working man

2019-02-19 17:59:12 UTC  

and who does the government owe first and foremost? its people

2019-02-19 17:59:17 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/509549100061163520/547477288967471106/birds.png

2019-02-19 18:00:37 UTC  

Well if those birds arent fed and they run out of food, they will attack people. Likewise they could also destroy their own enviroment for the sake of catching up and then cause trouble for us

2019-02-19 18:01:27 UTC  

if they attack people, kill them

2019-02-19 18:01:29 UTC  

if they attack people then the people will fight back,

2019-02-19 18:02:08 UTC  

not 'invade and occupy and spend trillions rebuilding their shithole slightly faster than they're destroying it themselves'

2019-02-19 18:02:25 UTC  

less marshall plan, more punitive expedition

2019-02-19 18:02:58 UTC  

but i do think everybody vastly underestimated the whole refugee issue and allocated too little resources to properly integrate asylum seekers as we'd have much more capacity

2019-02-19 18:03:23 UTC  

i think they allocated too few anti-ship missiles to NGO boats

2019-02-19 18:03:39 UTC  

But those issues do bot fix the ever growing problem. These places are developing nukes