Message from @Grenade123

Discord ID: 548194923740921856


2019-02-21 16:57:02 UTC  

I support trans people but then a frightening majority of trans people are irritating far leftists who make their personalities all about how trans they are so I'm like "yeah trans people shouldn't be discriminated against in the workplace that's bad!" But then I turn around and go "shut up tranny"

2019-02-21 17:09:42 UTC  

Yeah, I'm willing to give people the benefit of the doubt that expressing themselves using different gender norms is important to them. I even support adults taking hormones or getting sex reassignment surgery if they so choose. However, there's something really sinister about pushing the rhetoric onto children and encouraging them to define their gender and sexuality early on.

I think we should be careful as a society not to muddle an already slightly muddled concept. Biological sex is real. For scientific purposes, there are really only two genders. It is generally better to find a comfortable way to fit into gender norms as you develop early on in life, and then once you're an adult, feel free to be weird and express yourself in weird ways. But then I'd also suggest therapy to anyone who's so adamant about literally being the opposite sex that they get offended when 'misgendered'. I'm not a particularly conforming male, but I know I'm male, and nevertheless I don't care one iota if someone calls me a girl. If anything I might correct them in a very casual manner.

2019-02-21 17:12:33 UTC  

Same TBH
The idea of forcing transition onto children is even more disgusting because of the plenty of studies which show the majority of children under 18 who express "gender confusion" eventually grow out of it. Which I feel is going to lead to a massive group of detransitioned adults who will be permanently fucked up later on, as consequence of this narrative

2019-02-21 17:14:14 UTC  

Yeah. I recognize we want to treat children for various forms of illness when we can, but the risk of harm being done with this treatment makes it evil to give HRT to kids.

2019-02-21 17:16:26 UTC  

A kid wants to crossdress? Odd, but okay. Make sure they can still fit in and not be bullied but maybe allow it at home. Let them be themselves when it's reasonable to do so, but prior to 18 or even 21 you really can't say that a child has the foresight to know they're transgender, much less prescribe treatment that could harm a confused young person.

2019-02-21 17:23:28 UTC  

Remember when we pushed things like wear and dress however you like, doesn't matter if people think you are weird you do you? It worked well enough since there are effeminate men and masculine women who are comfortable a men and women, but it also covered people who just liked dressing up as the opposite sex for shits and giggles but also covered trans people? Yeah, why can't we go back to that? We seem to be regressing back to where we have gender stereotypes again. not the classical ones but a new set of them.

2019-02-21 17:23:53 UTC  

Just further proof the illuminati rules politics. :V <:LVA:463089670520045579>

2019-02-21 17:23:57 UTC  

Dress a certain way, act a certain way, look a certain way, you must be X Y or Z, and if you are not, thats bad.

2019-02-21 17:24:32 UTC  

look at NYC's list of "genders"

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/509549100061163520/548193321487564832/GetFile.png

2019-02-21 17:24:57 UTC  

drag kind and queen? cross-dresser? these are genders now?

2019-02-21 17:25:16 UTC  

That make you trans now?

2019-02-21 17:25:43 UTC  

the Scots must throw progressives for a loop. Most manly men in skirts you will ever see. But don't dare call them anything other than a man.

2019-02-21 17:26:59 UTC  

some of them are listed twice

2019-02-21 17:27:39 UTC  

>male-to-female
>MTF
>right next to each other

2019-02-21 17:27:50 UTC  

It's really quite absurd. The social construct aspect of gender has people so confused. It's mostly your physical sex organs that define the gender, then your behavior is a matter of conformity to stereotypes. It doesn't make you any other special gender, you just don't conform to the stereotypes attached to your sex.

2019-02-21 17:28:23 UTC  

People like to fit things in boxes, even themselves, when it's not necessary

2019-02-21 17:29:43 UTC  

non-conformists who all look the same

2019-02-21 17:30:20 UTC  

Instead of the old norms of men must be masculine and women must be feminine, under transgenderism it's just reversed. feminine people must be women and masculine people must be men.

2019-02-21 17:30:54 UTC  

i think you mean feminine people must be men, and masculine people must be female

2019-02-21 17:31:06 UTC  

They look the same cause they go out of their way not to conform to either gender so they can feel special. Nothing wrong with that... but then they're not creative enough to non-conform individually so they copy things other people do that they find cute or aesthetically appealing.

2019-02-21 17:31:44 UTC  

remember

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/509549100061163520/548195131484930077/iu.png

2019-02-21 17:31:54 UTC  

female

2019-02-21 17:33:15 UTC  

Male (okay, this ones a joke, but you get the point)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/509549100061163520/548195513841877032/lauren-southern.png

2019-02-21 17:33:24 UTC  

Poor dude just needed therapy, but never sought it, because *s h e* is a narcissist that didn't actually care much about simply being feminine, she needed other people to echo her self-respect in order to have self-esteem.

2019-02-21 17:34:37 UTC  

To be frank
We should start a massive trade and information war against China because they really caused global warming to happen and accelerate it to the max while people in the west has been trying so hard to keep the environment clean

2019-02-21 17:35:04 UTC  

well we started the trade war. and will now be selling rice to china so....

2019-02-21 17:35:41 UTC  

Eh
I wish japan invade China again for the 2nd time

2019-02-21 17:36:13 UTC  

that didn't end well for our involvement last time

2019-02-21 17:36:30 UTC  

let germany invade china first. then japan can take germany's holdings again

2019-02-21 17:36:42 UTC  

that turned out well

2019-02-21 17:37:09 UTC  

China is a fuck

2019-02-21 19:13:33 UTC  

shower thought : War Crimes don't exist to prevent horrendous acts, only so that the winner can punish the losing side more harshly and shame it in history books

2019-02-21 19:34:19 UTC  

If you want to be that cynical

Well there's some to protect people who aren't there to fight such as medics

2019-02-21 20:08:14 UTC  

they don't protect shit.

2019-02-21 20:08:29 UTC  

no army doesn't fire on medics because they risk breaking "international" law

2019-02-21 20:08:59 UTC  

they don't do it because of their own morality. They don't always do that

2019-02-21 21:33:52 UTC  

Another conservative attacked.