AS IF there arent smaller businesses in those industries lol

I thought big oil was a giant man made of oil

Poptarts, you're dismissing what are potentially valid counter-arguments on technicalities

again..... you cannot prescribe this an effect of capitalism bcuz of all the lobbying and privileges that corps like comcast get unfairly from the government .... thats an effect corporate welfare youre describing

do you think water should be privatized?

the telecom industry is SO heavily regulated by the govt that you cannot point to how it appears today as a phenomonen of capitalism bcuz its not

Technically, water is already privatized in some areas

chicken and egg right? they only get privileges from govt after they got huge. even without govt inteference the barrier to entry in building a telecom network is massive. early adoper / network effects wins

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you really need to think thru this stuff.... if invent some device that synthesises water, or of i go off an invest TONS of money to purify say SEA WATER..... of course that would be my private property

not to mention that you already BUY water in one way or another

bottled water

nobody would be entitled to take pure water from that that i have created with my own labor

and the "public" water system of course... tap water, etc

as if you dont already have to buy it!

purifying sea water makes the water yours? who did you buy the sea water from?

we also have the whole "raw water" thing

nobody owned the sea water to begin with ... it was a raw material that was transformed and i added value to it

value is added by the market though

the real question is .... what claim would anybody else have on sea water that i have purified?

Nobody technically owns any water. What you're paying for is the ease with which you can get the water, due to plumbing, pumps, etc.

so if you took raw sea water, bottled it, and called it "authentic indian ocean water, not for drinking" and could sell it

that would be yours?

i believe that if you can produce your own water, like powering your home yourself. it is effectively yours

your body is something like 80% water

ownership is an agreement,

If i pulled a gun and just took what you have, you wouldn't own it anymore 😛

if you dont own that water, who does?

my body, my water

Yeah, but the water in your body gets cycled in and out as you consume more and then go to the bathroom

so if I grab a bottle of your water and drink it without paying for it, I don't owe you anything

It's not the same water in you from birth to death

because it's my water now

but we're not talking about the water in your body

that would be stealing.... if i purified shit water .... bottled it, and you stole it... ya that would be stealing..... ? lol

Poptarts brought it up

to avoid getting too theoretical, here's a good concrete example:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/nestl%C3%A9-faces-renewed-criticism-as-b-c-drought-continues-1.3145929

somebody else started asking about "privatizing" water .... AS IF ppl dont own their own bottles of water!! LOL

Yeah, but what you own is the bottle, not the water

as if ppl dont *already* own ... etc

You drink the water, you piss it out

Nestle bottling groundwater that it does not pay for and then selling it