Message from @Beemann
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Worship of the state becomes normative
Or that's the goal at least
becomes normie
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No, they warship nothing.
There is no higher meaning to life at all in A brave new world.
I thought brave new world was more against Nihilism
Well that's because Brave New World is the "carrot"
Yes it is.@Deleted User
Everyone is kept in a constant hedonistic cycle by the state
1984 is the "stick"
reminder during the French Revolution, revolutionaries actively destroyed religious structures and replaced them with secular ones
take the Paris Pantheon for example
I see religion as necessary evil
all the statues were changed
it can be used for horrible purposes
but several more use it to find a purpose
in life
I don't agree, I don't think we need religion for meaning, or morality.
and have hope
I would agree that we don't need religion for those things, but I think we've done a poor job of replacing it
Like....I don't want people to be religious
but there's no easier alternative
I don't hugely care if people are religious
I feel like there is, spatiality (for lack of a better word) doesn't need any of the trappings of religion.
That's one of my major problems with Jordan peterson.
Jordan Peterson accepts the existence of nonreligious cohesion
what is spatiality
Otherwise he'd hate Nietzsche
And it's pretty clear his second biggest boner topic after Jung is Nietzsche
I don't know about jbp man
he's like verbal hitchens
Yeah, but I feel that the whole concept of god is problematic in forwarding the research into conciseness.
Doubly clear if you read 12 Rules, where he directly quotes Jung and specifically Thus Spoke Zarathustra
I feel so dumb saying this
@Deleted User To be fair Hitchens is verbal hitchens too.
Well you also have to take into account how Peterson compartmentalizes God
But I don't understand most of the stuff he says
Which is as a sort of force
@Deleted User read Nietzsche and it will become pretty clear