trust me, the logic really doesn't hold

but they try

the closest they get to consistent logic is they want city-state sized governments

unfortunately the nap has less influince than self preservation of everyone who relys on a centralized economy. if you own a massive bussiness that employs thousands of people and anyone else trys to harm you and you have a decent relationship with those employees and theres no state and threatening you threatens their livelyhood then the nap is a constitution writen on tissue paper and is just as binding

because thats not "a government" its "a community"

Ancaps just want small scale countries they figure they'd rule

american corporatism is kinda the modern one where government and bussiness are not one in the same but they both work together against the people

its not quite as bad here as it is in europe though

though you can kind of point at anything now and say its not as bad here as in europe

Yeah I've never been a big fan of "we're not as bad as", especially when it comes to freedom

I'd much rather live in a free country than a "more free than" country. The bar will always get lower somewhere

its not really a defense, its an expression of gratefulness

I think the validity of that also depends on your frame of reference

wlat if your country was mroe free than America? 😉

If I was fine before and I'm getting slapped across the face now, I won't thank my assailant for using an open hand instead of a closed fist

its not that i dont want to be better off, make america great again. but at the same time i think im allowed to be grateful i dont have to start 10 leagues lower in the pit when im trying to climb to a better country

but things only went up in america

Sure, I just think it's important to keep that distinction in mind

Not really. Erosion of rights has been the name of the game for the past 100+ years

well i meant in the last 2 years 😛

Erosion of society went down for the last 50 years now

I mean, pretty much all the same restrictions are still there

And we're obviously no better up north, despite growing resentment towards Trudeau and SocJus

i think the actual spirit of maga isint that america use to be better, though it kinda was at certain times, i think the spirit of maga is that we shouldent stop trying to make america better, where i think since the 70s we kinda did, or we focused making america better only in a social aspect (which is subjective) and neglected other angles

nah we've gotten more free over the decades since 1900, but since 1988 its been going downhill

Rights have been getting "reinterpreted" since the early 20th, with only a few fixes along the way

2A being the biggest and most obvious example, but one of many

2A?

2nd Amendment?

2nd Amendment

im not sure how exactly pre 1900 was less free

Neither am I

civil rights,

I don't recall gay marriage etc being freely allowed in those days

In 46, in TN, locals overthrew a corrupt Mayor and Sheriff with Thompson SMGs and M1 Garands

civil rights isint about freedom

the civil rights act might not be

In the 60s through to to 80s, ownership was restricted for automatic firearms, despite them being allowable constututionally

but civil rights as a concept are

Civil rights are an aspect of equality, which doesn't always go hand in hand with freedom

gay marriage i guess is a freedom though really its just the state giving you marraige rights when your gay. though you wernt prevented from calling yourselves married

i dont actually consiter marraige rights a freedom either