Message from @pratel

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2018-07-17 06:11:17 UTC  

Unless it's to talk about her time as a senator

2018-07-17 06:13:32 UTC  

It's a finger trap. Trump can't direct an actual investigation (and his direct underlings can't stat it) because it'll look like they're attacking political opposition. And she's not really worth attacking anyway.

If they don't it gets the Republican base angry.

Really, not going after her is the winning strategy for Trump. Keeps the base inflamed while not making a major scandal.

Now, if, say the NYTimes or Fox News decided to look into this and found something (either yes, or no, depending on which source you pick--only unexpected results are really going to matter) it could be significant.

2018-07-17 06:13:58 UTC  

But my guess is that they aren't going to want to invest resources when there's other ways to push narratives and sell ads.

2018-07-17 06:14:23 UTC  

So my guess is that this ends up in a grey state where it's plausible but essentially unconfirmable either way.

2018-07-17 06:14:44 UTC  

huh

2018-07-17 06:14:47 UTC  

fuck hillary

2018-07-17 06:15:12 UTC  

she ruined the democrat party

2018-07-17 06:15:18 UTC  

Honestly, I think it really reflects on the state of Journalism today.

2018-07-17 06:15:35 UTC  

Expect 100 op-eds no one is going to read pushing it out or trying to rebut it somehow.

2018-07-17 06:16:02 UTC  

And it won't even matter.

2018-07-17 06:16:40 UTC  

The papers sold their souls in the past couple years and the lines are so solid that no one actually cares anymore.

2018-07-17 06:17:29 UTC  

So many websites came up trying to be objective

2018-07-17 06:17:42 UTC  

As for why people might want Hillary as a speaker. She *did* run for president and is the first woman to do so. Universities like that kind of thing. Even if her speeches aren't worth paying attention to anyway.

2018-07-17 06:17:59 UTC  

They all gave up after realising no one wanted objective news

2018-07-17 06:18:10 UTC  

Objective news is boring, and makes people uncomfortable

2018-07-17 06:18:19 UTC  

No one wants to be uncomfortable

2018-07-17 06:18:34 UTC  

Yeah, I'm not going to say it's only the papers fault.

2018-07-17 06:18:45 UTC  

But there are some that I'd expect to hold a certain line.

2018-07-17 06:18:59 UTC  

Websites like fusion, vice and mother goose became propoganda because propoganda sells

2018-07-17 06:19:23 UTC  

The few websites I trust are The Knife and Newsline

2018-07-17 06:19:34 UTC  

But they tend to a certain level of hyperbole.

I stick to financial papers at this point (CNBC, WSJ, etc). They're not especially objective either, but they do try and prevent their subscribers from losing money reporting falsehoods.

2018-07-17 06:19:52 UTC  

The Knife is the closest thing to objective news as of now

2018-07-17 06:19:53 UTC  

The Knife seems good, but I haven't read too much from there.

2018-07-17 06:20:23 UTC  

Increasingly, I think the reality is that the reality is that you might have to pay for high quality news for applications or acept you'll need to read 3 different papers for a good viewpoint.

2018-07-17 06:20:34 UTC  

And realize where the actual biases tend to lie.

2018-07-17 06:21:00 UTC  

That might be better than a single consolidated source that's lying about being objective though.

2018-07-17 06:21:18 UTC  

Read CNN, Breitbart, and Washington Post, only believe what is common across all three

2018-07-17 06:21:28 UTC  

That works pretty well for me

2018-07-17 06:21:48 UTC  

I'd replace CNN with something else, TBH. They really went under in the past year or so.

2018-07-17 06:21:54 UTC  

The knife is basically that though

2018-07-17 06:22:07 UTC  

They take news stories, see what's common and post the facts

2018-07-17 06:22:18 UTC  

But it's a better idea to do it yourself

2018-07-17 06:22:29 UTC  

Not sure what I'd replace it with. I'm partial to WSJ , but that's subscription and leans right. NYTimes is actually not as bad as some people think, but it is atleast as left as WSJ.

2018-07-17 06:22:33 UTC  

is right

2018-07-17 06:22:38 UTC  

I approve of the 'read many sources' method

2018-07-17 06:22:50 UTC  

The problem is that it's a pain in the ***

2018-07-17 06:22:53 UTC  

But i wouldnt use any of those three listed, maybe washington post sometimes.

2018-07-17 06:23:00 UTC  

CNN is bad on some stuff, but usually they do get things right atleast partially

2018-07-17 06:23:07 UTC  

Same for Breitbart

2018-07-17 06:23:14 UTC  

Breitbart is weird.

2018-07-17 06:23:17 UTC  

Just absorb what is common