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2018-07-17 06:05:39 UTC  

As far as i can tell Putin said that it happened. Now if you trust Putin is up to you.

2018-07-17 06:08:38 UTC  

Who else can we trust though

2018-07-17 06:08:48 UTC  

There is literally no other source

2018-07-17 06:08:58 UTC  

Does it really matter? Hillary is such a has-been she no one is going to look.

2018-07-17 06:09:14 UTC  

It matters to the republicans.

2018-07-17 06:09:24 UTC  

Prove Hillary and the democrats took money

2018-07-17 06:09:41 UTC  

And using that, prove they are corrupt

2018-07-17 06:09:44 UTC  

It's quite plausible to be honest. There was the whole Russian Uranium scandal back in 2015.

2018-07-17 06:10:03 UTC  

If it's prooved they are corrupt

2018-07-17 06:10:07 UTC  

It wouldn't be outrageous to think that Putin or some cronies shovelled money into what was one of her campaign funds.

2018-07-17 06:10:11 UTC  

Republicans will be the new major party

2018-07-17 06:10:21 UTC  

But Hillary can barely make speaker fees at Universities.

2018-07-17 06:10:39 UTC  

Who the fuck would want Hillary as a speaker though

2018-07-17 06:10:47 UTC  

She lost to her first pick in GE opponent.

2018-07-17 06:10:48 UTC  

She's literally good for nothing

2018-07-17 06:11:17 UTC  

Unless it's to talk about her time as a senator

2018-07-17 06:13:32 UTC  

It's a finger trap. Trump can't direct an actual investigation (and his direct underlings can't stat it) because it'll look like they're attacking political opposition. And she's not really worth attacking anyway.

If they don't it gets the Republican base angry.

Really, not going after her is the winning strategy for Trump. Keeps the base inflamed while not making a major scandal.

Now, if, say the NYTimes or Fox News decided to look into this and found something (either yes, or no, depending on which source you pick--only unexpected results are really going to matter) it could be significant.

2018-07-17 06:13:58 UTC  

But my guess is that they aren't going to want to invest resources when there's other ways to push narratives and sell ads.

2018-07-17 06:14:23 UTC  

So my guess is that this ends up in a grey state where it's plausible but essentially unconfirmable either way.

2018-07-17 06:14:44 UTC  

huh

2018-07-17 06:14:47 UTC  

fuck hillary

2018-07-17 06:15:12 UTC  

she ruined the democrat party

2018-07-17 06:15:18 UTC  

Honestly, I think it really reflects on the state of Journalism today.

2018-07-17 06:15:35 UTC  

Expect 100 op-eds no one is going to read pushing it out or trying to rebut it somehow.

2018-07-17 06:16:02 UTC  

And it won't even matter.

2018-07-17 06:16:40 UTC  

The papers sold their souls in the past couple years and the lines are so solid that no one actually cares anymore.

2018-07-17 06:17:29 UTC  

So many websites came up trying to be objective

2018-07-17 06:17:42 UTC  

As for why people might want Hillary as a speaker. She *did* run for president and is the first woman to do so. Universities like that kind of thing. Even if her speeches aren't worth paying attention to anyway.

2018-07-17 06:17:59 UTC  

They all gave up after realising no one wanted objective news

2018-07-17 06:18:10 UTC  

Objective news is boring, and makes people uncomfortable

2018-07-17 06:18:19 UTC  

No one wants to be uncomfortable

2018-07-17 06:18:34 UTC  

Yeah, I'm not going to say it's only the papers fault.

2018-07-17 06:18:45 UTC  

But there are some that I'd expect to hold a certain line.

2018-07-17 06:18:59 UTC  

Websites like fusion, vice and mother goose became propoganda because propoganda sells

2018-07-17 06:19:23 UTC  

The few websites I trust are The Knife and Newsline

2018-07-17 06:19:34 UTC  

But they tend to a certain level of hyperbole.

I stick to financial papers at this point (CNBC, WSJ, etc). They're not especially objective either, but they do try and prevent their subscribers from losing money reporting falsehoods.

2018-07-17 06:19:52 UTC  

The Knife is the closest thing to objective news as of now

2018-07-17 06:19:53 UTC  

The Knife seems good, but I haven't read too much from there.

2018-07-17 06:20:23 UTC  

Increasingly, I think the reality is that the reality is that you might have to pay for high quality news for applications or acept you'll need to read 3 different papers for a good viewpoint.

2018-07-17 06:20:34 UTC  

And realize where the actual biases tend to lie.