Alot of them use a pen, pencil, similar

plus alot of macros

You didn't build your computer and phone from scratch

So you're dependent. Checkmate atheists

It's pretty impressive honestly

granded the GPU i bought, cuz fuck that

the rest is part by part made 😄

Pretty much everything you use was "set up for you"

Yeah? You built a CPU by hand m8?

fine, i bought the CPU too

You bought all the parts and then put then together

Someone set up the parts

not this pc itself though, i made one for a school project

Someone built your house, your fridge

I mean you could keep disabled people alive and let them decide later with assisted suicide.

Someone "set" these things "up" for you

and i paid them for it

Yes

So can a disabled person

i'd love to see a self-made succesful disabled person

and i'm not talking about one where his start was paid for

There simply is no reason why i as a parent shouldn't be allowed to abort my child because of a debilitating illness

Hold on, why would it matter if they had help with their startup? Non disabled people do as well

non-disabled people don't have to though

thats the difference

That's not always true

in what way?

In that not everyone has the capital or capacity to start up a business, the talent to sustain themselves through the arts etc

yes, so they can get a regular job to save up capital

a fully immobile person can't just get a job anywhere

No, but they can find work, and they're a tiny minority

It's not like we have legions of quadriplegics

“I cannot give you the formula for success, but I can give you the formula for failure: which is: Try to please everybody.”

— Herbert B. Swope

nice

thats no metric though,

Theres no legions of ME either, so we should do everything to keep me alive at all costs

Theres no legions of terrorists waiting to enter, so lets just let a few in 😉

You're falling into a false dichotomy

no im not

It isn't "we have to pay for everything" or "we ought to abort them"

Yes you are

i'm saying that "we have just a few" is no reason why they should then be sustained at all cost

It's not "doing everything to keep them alive", I'm contesting the idea that they *should* in your words, be aborted

Lets make it simple then, if they can survive on their own, they can live