and no, i wasn't suggesting the key factor was him being disabled,

I'm saying the lack of his disability at the time allowed him to strive that far quick enough to get somewhere before it took its toll on his body

He wouldn't be as renouned

As for the free of their disability, you're lumping disabilities with debilitation now
They find living preferable because they're not debilitated enough and have come to terms with it

"Not debilitated enough" some of these people have no ability to move their limbs lol

Some of these people will die by 30

yes, and those people are wholey dependent on someone else

Dependent in a physical sense yes, but not necessarily emotional or financial

financial too then,

Someone else has to pay for it

But this argument that an outside force should decide when a life shouldn't occur based on suffering sounds an awful lot like utilitarian thinking to me

Maybe they have paid for it. There are nigh infinite ways to make money

thats after someone experienced life

We're talking before they were even born

~~Oh god he's got a bigger chest then me~~

Well children have to be supported in all those ways by their parents already

Financially, physically, emotionally

yes, with the goal of making them self-sustaining

a person who can't move from birth, can't do that

A person who can't move from birth can't make money from financial transactions?

I wasn't aware you had to use your hands to make money in the modern era

how will they make the transaction?

Digitally. You know there are quadriplegics who play video games right?

and how do they do that, if they can't move?

You have a face. It can move

That's the simple explanation

Dude was playing Legend of Grimrock with his mouth

Though, those people still need alot of taking care of.

and how does he do that? 😉 mouth magic?

Just because they can play video games, does not mean they are a fully functioning person

someone else set the system up for them

they're dependant

Well, kinda

Alot of them use a pen, pencil, similar

plus alot of macros

You didn't build your computer and phone from scratch

So you're dependent. Checkmate atheists

It's pretty impressive honestly

granded the GPU i bought, cuz fuck that

the rest is part by part made 😄

Pretty much everything you use was "set up for you"

Yeah? You built a CPU by hand m8?

fine, i bought the CPU too

You bought all the parts and then put then together

Someone set up the parts

not this pc itself though, i made one for a school project

Someone built your house, your fridge