So would you rather they get birthed and die
Or gut them early on so they don't have to suffer?

But it isn't redundant when you are willing to waste all resources needed to keep them alive

So under the natural selection argument, abortion is nonsensical, since you're reducing the number of potential offspring

You are reducing weak offspring

They'd be reduced anyway

and it would be free

And abortion is used on non weak offspring

Abortions aren't free

Starvation is

Under natural selection yes. Nowadays, no

i was talking about starvation

Right so we shouldn't adhere to natural selection, yes?

to an extent, i think we should

You can't artificially induce natural selection by definition

sure i can

if natural selection is let idiots who don't wear helmets on motorcycles die, then yes.

You can, but you wouldnt

Go full sparta and throw disabled babies off a cliff.

No, it's not natural if you do it artificially

I mean, natural selection would also imply no medicine etc

Not necessarily

You can do it naturally too

You can *only* have natural selection naturally

You can have it naturally if you want

curing cancer by chemo isn't natural

Hence i can't fully support natural selection

Animals abandoning babies. Is that natural or no?

Remove the safety nets

depends on the animal really

medicine spits in the fact of natural selection, outside of eating things that have medicinal properties

Are we going anprim in here?

anprim?

Anarcho primitive

Nope

dafuq is that? 😛

Lol

You are the one taking it there

Enforced caveman existence

depends how much you view "fucking with your body with artificially created medicines" as still being natural selection

No, I wasn't the one saying we should stop using medicine

"Natural selection can only be done naturally" paraphrasing

Yes