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2018-07-21 00:33:41 UTC  

It's a hijah

2018-07-21 00:33:49 UTC  

You can do all kinds of stuff with it

2018-07-21 00:34:10 UTC  

In india, that's how pakistani terrorists steal bomb materials

2018-07-21 00:34:16 UTC  

banning the hijab is the same as enforcing the hijab

2018-07-21 00:34:29 UTC  

They're still telling people what they can't wear. Just because it doesn't harm you doesn't mean it's not right.

2018-07-21 00:34:31 UTC  

I can't support either

2018-07-21 00:34:36 UTC  

It's not just an article of clothing though

2018-07-21 00:34:46 UTC  

It gives you the option to cover your face

2018-07-21 00:34:48 UTC  

It is still an article of clothing.

2018-07-21 00:34:58 UTC  

Should we ban scarfs then?

2018-07-21 00:35:00 UTC  

And hide your identity in public

2018-07-21 00:35:35 UTC  

If it was the chaddar being banned, I wouldn't agree with that

2018-07-21 00:35:58 UTC  

If we're just banning anything that can be used to conceal your identity we're not going to have much left.

2018-07-21 00:36:25 UTC  

Let me see if Denmark gave any explanation

2018-07-21 00:36:50 UTC  

I can't support banning or supporting either, unless in conjunction of committing another crime (like US mask laws)

2018-07-21 00:37:32 UTC  

The thing that should be banned is anyone forcing people to wear it.

2018-07-21 00:37:47 UTC  

The law states it allows you to cover your face under reasonable circumstances

2018-07-21 00:38:06 UTC  

Nice and vague.

2018-07-21 00:38:08 UTC  

I want a reasonable expectation of privacy in public

2018-07-21 00:38:27 UTC  

@CreativeRealms You'd have to ban muslims for that

2018-07-21 00:38:49 UTC  

It's not systematically enforced, it's culturally enforced

2018-07-21 00:39:09 UTC  

If they can’t assimilate then they should be banned.

2018-07-21 00:39:12 UTC  

The only way to ensure they're choosing to wear it, is to raise them away from other muslims

2018-07-21 00:39:13 UTC  

where? in the middle east? They are theocracies

2018-07-21 00:39:43 UTC  

Being pressured into something isn't the same thing as being forced

2018-07-21 00:40:01 UTC  

Exactly

2018-07-21 00:40:10 UTC  

I’d argue that there are plenty of cases where it’s forced.

2018-07-21 00:40:19 UTC  

Not really

2018-07-21 00:40:26 UTC  

Don’t people get acid thrown at them for not covering up?

2018-07-21 00:40:28 UTC  

Except in theocracies

2018-07-21 00:40:33 UTC  

There are. Places where it can be dangerous not to wear hijab.

2018-07-21 00:40:41 UTC  

@CreativeRealms Yeah, that is "pressured"

2018-07-21 00:41:07 UTC  

So replace forced with pressured.

2018-07-21 00:41:29 UTC  

You really don't consider a difference between someone being told "you should do this" and being shamed for not doing so and someone being violently attacked for not doing so?

2018-07-21 00:41:41 UTC  

That's the thing, it's culturally enforced by other members of the community

2018-07-21 00:42:15 UTC  

It's why women from theocracies like iran are ripping off their burkhas

2018-07-21 00:42:19 UTC  

this is a circular argument if you can't agree on the venue, is this denmark, the US, or the middle east?

2018-07-21 00:42:24 UTC  

Denmark

2018-07-21 00:42:29 UTC  

You're acting as though it's the same in every case. In some cases you get killed, and in others you're just shamed.

2018-07-21 00:42:34 UTC  

Middle East it's legally enforced