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But it isn't just any clothes, schev
It's a hijah
You can do all kinds of stuff with it
In india, that's how pakistani terrorists steal bomb materials
banning the hijab is the same as enforcing the hijab
They're still telling people what they can't wear. Just because it doesn't harm you doesn't mean it's not right.
I can't support either
It's not just an article of clothing though
It gives you the option to cover your face
It is still an article of clothing.
Should we ban scarfs then?
And hide your identity in public
If it was the chaddar being banned, I wouldn't agree with that
If we're just banning anything that can be used to conceal your identity we're not going to have much left.
Let me see if Denmark gave any explanation
I can't support banning or supporting either, unless in conjunction of committing another crime (like US mask laws)
The thing that should be banned is anyone forcing people to wear it.
The law states it allows you to cover your face under reasonable circumstances
Nice and vague.
I want a reasonable expectation of privacy in public
@CreativeRealms You'd have to ban muslims for that
It's not systematically enforced, it's culturally enforced
If they can’t assimilate then they should be banned.
The only way to ensure they're choosing to wear it, is to raise them away from other muslims
where? in the middle east? They are theocracies
Being pressured into something isn't the same thing as being forced
Exactly
I’d argue that there are plenty of cases where it’s forced.
Not really
Don’t people get acid thrown at them for not covering up?
Except in theocracies
There are. Places where it can be dangerous not to wear hijab.
@CreativeRealms Yeah, that is "pressured"
So replace forced with pressured.
You really don't consider a difference between someone being told "you should do this" and being shamed for not doing so and someone being violently attacked for not doing so?
That's the thing, it's culturally enforced by other members of the community
It's why women from theocracies like iran are ripping off their burkhas
this is a circular argument if you can't agree on the venue, is this denmark, the US, or the middle east?
Denmark
You're acting as though it's the same in every case. In some cases you get killed, and in others you're just shamed.