Message from @pratel
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currently corporations within the united states have more power of influince over government and more freedom than the american people, so much that they even have control over some freedoms of american people who use their services such as social media corporations
The neo-libs are more similar to the progressives than anything, including who they want to serve.
But they have more faith in the market and aren't aren't looking to tear it all down.
Yeah, that's not really how it works.
The people who have power in the government are the organized and the voting blocks.
progressives dont serve corporate interests with faith
@The Beatles are just ok You can let it go or ask JDM to delete it, hun
Tried. No response. Child getting thrown to the grown with blood.
they do so either because they do not know who supports them or because they assume that anyone who supports them will support them even if they got power
progressives will never get power
Where are you getting this stuff?
guy i buy hotdogs from during lunch break
where do you get this stuff from?
I mean, I've talked with fairly left-leaning economists for one.
As for stuff like voting blocks. It's why the AARP is so powreful.
They have voting power and organize it into a force.
People ascribe way more power to corporations than they really have.
There are some that present dangers (like Google) but it's a far stretch from corporations secretly controlling the government.
In part because the corporations tend to cut each other down as often as anything.
Vote as a group, not an individual
Wow nothing
That is disturbing.
@JDM_WAAAT Do we have anyone who manages this stuff?
I DMed but no response
Hold on, new person got added to admin
anyway, shiva i dont think its correct to say that the left wanting to support censorship in the united states is reflective of being concervitive, its reflective of being authoritarian, though different groups in the left want it for different reasons. the neoliberals want it to defend themselves from opposition, though as they are on their way down i think youll see less and less call for regulated speech when they have less power to prevent their own speech from being regulated. as for the progressives, they want it because they believe that words have power and progressives wnat to fight for the powerless (those thy think are the powerless) and thus fight to take words from their opponents and also use those words of their oppoennts in order to target them and disassociate themselves from them. ultimately progressives have had their ideology warped by the idea that race and identity are more important than class though however or that they are sononymus with class and thus act as identitarians for neo-liberal voting blocks while neo-libs support a globalist agenda that reflects intersectionality and old school communism but actually acts to support international bussiness by disadvanteging the national working class for the sake of the international working class
@Joe. BourbonFox is saying there's child abuse in the shitposting channel
Yeah, the left supports alot of stuff conservatives consider abhorrent
Poster MadNoy
There is that one gif
Obly that one I saw
corporations dont secretly control the government, lobbying isint illegal
Just report the tweet
if it is illegal we certainly dont stop it
Funny story. The Progressives of the early 20th were religious and implemented Prohibition.
not to mention campain funding and even if they are both illegal corporations have economic power, that economic power is good enough protection
most governments of the western world are on the payroll of corporate interests, not even as a slight majority
@The Beatles are just ok is saying there's child abuse being posted to the shitposting channel.
I don't know much about it, he says he DM'd you.
progressives of the early 20th century were actually conservitive
The Progressives of the 20th century were both.
like not just a hypothetical comparison but they were demonsteribly conservitive
That's one of the problems with labels, is that the positions change with time.
or they dont mean anything at all