Message from @Nine

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2018-07-21 03:36:31 UTC  

Its a bastardized version of equality we call equity

2018-07-21 03:36:45 UTC  

There's only one way to make people truly equal, and I don't want to do that

2018-07-21 03:36:50 UTC  

Yeah, and the scary part is that people seem to be taking it and running with it.

2018-07-21 03:37:09 UTC  

Nah, because even then not everyone is truly equal.

2018-07-21 03:37:27 UTC  

Somebody would be in a part of the world with a nicer climate or something.

2018-07-21 03:37:28 UTC  

No one would be able to tell, though

2018-07-21 03:37:29 UTC  

Peterson said that the idea of equality is subjective

2018-07-21 03:37:51 UTC  

*I'm talking about extinction here*

2018-07-21 03:38:02 UTC  

oh. lol. Yeah, that would work.

2018-07-21 03:38:31 UTC  

Yeah, there's atleast 3 different definitions of equality, and even then it's basically impossible to really apply in practice.

2018-07-21 03:38:48 UTC  

Equality is when one object is identical to another

2018-07-21 03:38:56 UTC  

Oh wait, you're not talking about programming

2018-07-21 03:39:08 UTC  

Nah, we're talking more in a social sense between people.

2018-07-21 03:39:51 UTC  

Like I said, very subjective

2018-07-21 03:40:11 UTC  

So the two forms of equality between people I've heard of so far are Equality of Opportunity and Equality of Outcome

2018-07-21 03:40:14 UTC  

What's the third?

2018-07-21 03:40:16 UTC  

Still, extinction is the only guaranteed equality

2018-07-21 03:40:27 UTC  

Equality of Ability?

2018-07-21 03:41:03 UTC  

that makes about as much sense as equality of dick length

2018-07-21 03:41:13 UTC  

I remember Haidt used several definitions of equality in his stuff.

2018-07-21 03:41:14 UTC  

chop chop

2018-07-21 03:41:27 UTC  

The one that I would tend towards personally is equality under the law.

2018-07-21 03:41:37 UTC  

But that's not really a philosophical position itself.

2018-07-21 03:41:43 UTC  

One could say that's equivalent to Equality of Opportunity

2018-07-21 03:41:54 UTC  

I mean its the same as opportunity id say

2018-07-21 03:42:07 UTC  

It's more applied, if anything.

2018-07-21 03:42:07 UTC  

one lonely boi in talk room 4

2018-07-21 03:42:09 UTC  

Well, not necessarily

2018-07-21 03:42:33 UTC  

It wouldn't necessarily be a perfect overlap with complete Equality of Opportunity

2018-07-21 03:42:35 UTC  

You assume I am capable of speech

2018-07-21 03:44:29 UTC  

Well like two people should receive the same punishment for the same action.

2018-07-21 03:44:29 UTC  

Equality under the law has some weird practical questions attached, like does it include equally skilled representation in court?

2018-07-21 03:44:43 UTC  

Same as people should receive the same reward for the same action

2018-07-21 03:46:39 UTC  

Ultimately, it's funny, because there's so many definitions of equality and not everyone agrees, we'll never be happy.

2018-07-21 03:47:07 UTC  

The research I've seen says what people want is "fairness" which is very close to what Ginga Bomber is saying.

2018-07-21 03:47:21 UTC  

But it's not an entirely defined concept.

2018-07-21 03:47:39 UTC  

But it emerges at a very, very young age.

2018-07-21 03:47:45 UTC  

I want to have equality of equality

2018-07-21 03:47:52 UTC  

That seems like the most logical conclusion

2018-07-21 03:48:06 UTC  

Not that animal farm some are more equal than others bs

2018-07-21 03:48:17 UTC  

Once everybody agrees on a standard definition for equality then we can move forwards with making it a reality