Message from @LunaticHell

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2018-07-21 15:40:26 UTC  

wow wtf the guardian blocked it

2018-07-21 15:40:30 UTC  

do you mean the guardian?

2018-07-21 15:40:37 UTC  

Yes,

2018-07-21 15:40:41 UTC  

DUDE WTF

2018-07-21 15:40:47 UTC  

To hell with the guardian.

2018-07-21 15:40:53 UTC  

the guardian of left-wing ideals

2018-07-21 15:40:58 UTC  

I watched it a few hours ago holy shit man

2018-07-21 15:41:08 UTC  

yeah guardian is def left

2018-07-21 15:41:30 UTC  

Communism really is back.

2018-07-21 15:41:31 UTC  

the video is def fair use though

2018-07-21 15:41:41 UTC  

Indeed.

2018-07-21 15:42:46 UTC  

Anyone think Communism and Anarcho Communism is just the same thing

2018-07-21 15:42:53 UTC  

it is not

2018-07-21 15:42:57 UTC  

It is

2018-07-21 15:43:02 UTC  

It si.

2018-07-21 15:43:04 UTC  

is

2018-07-21 15:43:05 UTC  

DEBATE TIME

2018-07-21 15:43:20 UTC  

Is it?

2018-07-21 15:43:26 UTC  

Yea

2018-07-21 15:43:36 UTC  

Anarcho communism is small scale

every group for itself

normal communism is world-wide, Everyone is part of the same community

2018-07-21 15:43:38 UTC  

Yes and no.

2018-07-21 15:43:39 UTC  

Communism means no state, no class

2018-07-21 15:43:41 UTC  

Communisms "end state" is Anarcho Communisms ideal.

2018-07-21 15:43:51 UTC  

Communism is the end state mate

2018-07-21 15:43:56 UTC  

I studied this thing a while ago.

2018-07-21 15:44:10 UTC  

Shiv: Stop saying stuff I was gonna say.

2018-07-21 15:44:19 UTC  

WE ARE THE SAME

2018-07-21 15:44:20 UTC  

@Deleted User Yeah i agree with you.

2018-07-21 15:44:26 UTC  

They're the same thing.

2018-07-21 15:44:42 UTC  

Technically anarcy is the end goal of communism .

2018-07-21 15:45:04 UTC  

Yes.

2018-07-21 15:45:15 UTC  

In essence, Countries like soviet Russia is Stalinism

2018-07-21 15:45:17 UTC  

The idea is pure and simple, but human are anything but.

2018-07-21 15:45:24 UTC  

Communism + State

2018-07-21 15:45:43 UTC  

Socialism + state.

2018-07-21 15:45:49 UTC  

Anarchy, in it's roots, is no force upon anyone esle.

2018-07-21 15:46:00 UTC  

@Dennafen Socialism has state though

2018-07-21 15:46:02 UTC  

Will never work.

2018-07-21 15:46:09 UTC  

An important difference between anarchist communism and Marxist communism is who the product of the worker's labor belongs to as both of the ideologies believe that the product of labor does not belong to the capitalist due to it being produced by the worker and not the employer. However, there are slight differences between the opinions taken by Peter Kropotkin and Karl Marx, with Marx stating that product of the worker's labor belongs to the worker due to it being produced by the worker. In his book The Conquest of Bread, Kropotkin believes that the product of the worker's labor belongs to the community and argues that this should be the case due to the worker needing more than just what he produces and what the worker needs should be equally counted as a means of production.

2018-07-21 15:46:18 UTC  

tl; dr

2018-07-21 15:46:21 UTC  

Socialism is where the state owns the means of production