I find that populism always has a corrosive effect on social relations even if democracy and state appatatus itself aren't altered. So Erdoğan in Turkey is an example of both. He has ripped up all the institutions and reformed them to his preference. He has also created a social civil war between Islamists and secularists.

But you get Corbyn in UK who if elected I doubt would actually damage democracy or toy with UK institutions. However, his populust rhetoric about "the people" and "the elites" would create huge social divisions. @zutt

But he had nobler intentions, you see

He didn't go full "I WANT THE POWER CUBA IS MINE"

no, he was just "You must die cuz you dont agree with my ways"

That was castro

It's weird

its any communist leader

Animal farm can be a metaphor for so many revolutions

Like the French revolution

With Robespierre

Animal farm is a metaphor for any "More equity for the people" revolution

any class based revolution

yeah

@Sarah Jessica Farter i agree with you about corbyn

Fuck corbyn

he's an idiot

dude wants to redistribute houses

Lel he is future pm of uk

😔

no way

XD yeah hes dumb

i mean

He's a moron

Unless miracle happens

you know who should be PM

Its pretty certain

with ppl defecting from the Tories and going to UKIP

Nigel Farrage

neither side will have enoug support

@zutt D'you live in UK, btw? (I know you're Czech).

You have a large group of unhappy people, led by an idealist, and an ambitious person
- They overthrow the current rule,
- The idealist wants to be good, the ambitious wants power
- The Ambitious removes the good people, and only keeps slaves / mindless ones / scared ones
- The ambitious person gives himself more power and wealth and declares it to be equal, because they are at the top, and kill anyone that disagrees

Yeah

I do live here rn

PIGS ARE MORE EQUAL

Ah cool. I wondered how your knowledge on the political scene here was so good. I'm UK too. Up in Scotland.

Corbyn doesn't have to become PM

UKIP and Tories might form a coalition, with UKIP as leaders

Doc yeah and the idealists get to be called the useful idiots

cuz Labor afaik isn't "gaining" votes,

And tory losses move to UKIP, not Labor

Doc too bad we are in the uk

anything not part of the Ambitious persons plans is a useful idiot

With first past the post system it cant happen like that