i'd say

Some real crime instigated by white nationalists in the west 😛

can't be a white nationalist in a non-white country

The question is so vague that's why I'm asking for clarification.

considering the amount of real white nationalist actions,

Just take any criteria i guess? 😛

that made the news and was real

not "An Asian white supremacist tasered a black gang leader"

Why not ?

You think those don't exist ? Or are they not valid ?

I think that at that point its not caused by white supremacist reasons

I mean, say we have a Pro-Palestinian black pedophile

Who is to be judged for pedophillia, at what point does his stance on palestine matter for his crime? 😉

Maybe if he raped kids because they were jewish ? I can't even decypher what you going about..

Or like, me calling a mexican adult who can't say what 2 + 2 is, stupid

Thats not racially motivated either

However, if a guy with a swastica tattoo'ed on his forehead would shout "Death to Jews" and starts shooting up the place,

I'd say his political affiliation adds to his actions

How did we got from clarifying to me what exactly she means under the vague 'significant acts of violence' committed by white supremacist and whether it counts not racially motivated crimes as well into this ?

You are like trying to educate me what is considered racially motivated and what is not but how does it relate to what I asked ?

simple

If a person just starts committing random acts of violence, that doesn't mean he's doing it under the banner of some cause

If a person proclaims he does, its another matter

WELL DUH
But why the hell are you going on about this unrelated thing ?

that Las Vegas shooter for example

He did a significant act of violence, and he was white

But he was not a white supremacist

She didn't specify if it has to be racially motivated and that's why I wanted clarifications...

I would say racially motivated was implied by Shiv, might have to wait for a response though

when you ask for what "white nationalist" there is, the implication is that its racially motivated

cuz otherwise, why add that it has to be a white nationalist

Because I would rather clarifications what someone is looking for rather making assumptions but that's just me. She might as well be looking for overall crime rates for white supremacist

its a chatroom,

Not an aircraft engine,

You can safely mistake the question and give a wrong answer beforehand 😄

if your answer is wrong, the person can always clarify later

Anders Breivik. He murdered 77 and injured a further 319 in Norway, 2011. @Deleted User Or did you just mean in USA? Also Alexander Bissonette murdered 6 and injured a further 19 in Quebec, 2017.

Oops, @Dr.Wol already mentioned Breivik.

while we are on the subject of racial violence, should gang violence count?

is it racially motivated?

Yes. Take the abduction, torture and murder of Ilan Halimi in Paris by a Muslim gang. Definite antisemtic motive.

Or the abdution, torture and murder of Kriss Donald in Scotland by a Pakistani gang. The perpetrators were jailed for racially-motivated murder.

those sound like two muslim incidents

Not white Nationalist

They were. Sorry I thought Cytos was asking if gang attacks/murders can be racist in general.

oh well those can be sure

look at MS-13 😉

Yes, nowhere he implying WHITE racial violence

the Crips

the Bl00ds

well as i udnerstood it we were still talking about shivangi's question, since he stated 2 of those before the muslim incidents

honest mistake 😛