Message from @Scribblehatch
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If I kill a black guy while reading huckleberry finn
Is that hate crime
Who decides if it's a hate crime
Or you support trump and kill a mexicn
That'a a big problem with it for sure, unless explicitly stated there's no way for anyone but the perpetrator to know.
Who decides the intent
Unless the culprit declares it, that is
Like even the grand dragon of the KKK can kill a black dude for reasons other than his race, but he'd likely still be slapped with those extra charges were that the case
Because someone else decided it for him
Or that he can easily lie about his intent
I honestly haven't heard of too many cases of hate crime supplements that didn't seem to have some kind of clean line.
Like, clearly racist posts on Facebook or something.
Basically the prosecution has to demonstrate its a hate crime
It's not an easy bar either iirc
Burden of proof and innocent until proven guilty
But then you're prosecuting someone for making racist posts on facebook, not for actually committing a hate crime.
No, intent is one of the most difficutl bars in the entire judical system
I love, love, love Blackstone.
Someone can be racist against someone and commit a non-racially motivated crime against them
"--Well in that case... Let's figure out the whole EVIDENCE and SLEUTHING bit."
Yes!!
Perfect!
@Schedrevka they have to commit a separate crime first. And it usually is something violent like assault.
I've quoted Blackstone's Formulation out of context. As in.. not telling them a smart old guy in a big stupid wig said it.
And they treat me like I'm fucking crazy. Until I show them the image.
"Oh--.. WELL STILL THO.."
Spineless fools.
But then you're still slapping them with additional charges over facebook posts.
Thought crime....
It has to be related to the crime too.
If I say "I'm gonna kill a spook tonight"
And then kill a black person
That's just first degree murder
Saying it might be second degree
A good lawyer might be able to argue you were emotionally driven/impuslive
But planning to murder someone without any intent aside from that would be 1st degree
"My client just really *really* wanted to kill a spook that night."
Alright I've been drawing literally all day while keeping Tim in the background listening. I just joined this server today.
If I wanted to post the art, which would be the best channel..?