Message from @Schedrevka

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2018-07-29 08:47:14 UTC  

its not any different than the cost of capitalism

People prefer life over money

2018-07-29 08:47:39 UTC  

problem is that under authoritarianism, people have no incentive to be above-accepted

2018-07-29 08:47:53 UTC  

that is why authoritarian societies stagnate in progress, and capitalists don't

2018-07-29 08:48:08 UTC  

that doesn't change that making things work, is still more efficient in authoritarianism

2018-07-29 08:48:32 UTC  

and im saying with the soviet data is was clear it wassnt

2018-07-29 08:49:04 UTC  

What was the context where he said that? I only remember him saying that an authoritarian government has an advantage in being able to act quickly in cases of emergency, so in the case of a hostile invasion a dictator would be able rally the troops without asking anyone, but under a pure direct democracy people would have to meet up, vote, etc, or under a true anarchy they'd lack coordination to do much

2018-07-29 08:49:51 UTC  

he gave an example of making a guy mop a floor

2018-07-29 08:50:41 UTC  

Guns don't hold nearly enough liquids to do that effectively

2018-07-29 08:51:03 UTC  

what Schedrevka said is the whole argument

2018-07-29 08:51:20 UTC  

in the long run, Authoritarianism stagnates

But in the short run, its effective because you bypass any negotiations

2018-07-29 08:52:19 UTC  

workers are always trying to minimize their work, cause they didnt get anough food to survive otherwise. managers always said they did enough work each day, to not get demoted into becoming workers, managers manegers always said they reached the camps quotas even though the work was shoddy and there wasent enough product, or risk being trown with the workers

2018-07-29 08:52:26 UTC  

Also a benevolent dictator is rare, and even if you can find one you probably won't find another when he dies even if no one tries to usurp him or whatever

2018-07-29 08:52:51 UTC  

at the end when they wanted to sell their producs you got a bunch of shit that didnt work, and no one to blame except the entire camp

2018-07-29 08:53:29 UTC  

and then all the money you did get for your product, goes into paying the salaries of the people holding the gun, cause on that level even the soviets admitted that capitalism just worked better

2018-07-29 08:53:53 UTC  

they just payed someone to hold a gun to force others to work, where it would have been more efficient to pay someone to work

2018-07-29 08:54:47 UTC  

Anyone else seen Death of Stalin?

2018-07-29 08:56:42 UTC  

No, but that gave me an idea for a movie: Weekend at Bernie's, but Bernie is a dictator

2018-07-29 09:03:27 UTC  

Watch Death of Stalin. It's like Life of Brian.

2018-07-29 09:03:31 UTC  

In fact I'm now realizing that may have been an intentional thing with the title.

2018-07-29 09:08:46 UTC  

ok, but it could be called Weekend at Benito's.

2018-07-29 09:10:21 UTC  

You make me sad.

2018-07-29 10:18:00 UTC  

whatchu gays tolkien about

2018-07-29 10:18:18 UTC  

nothin much, hobbit you?

2018-07-29 10:18:19 UTC  

the dong of power

2018-07-29 10:18:24 UTC  

ooh benevolent dictators

2018-07-29 10:18:30 UTC  

i know one

2018-07-29 10:18:32 UTC  

umm

2018-07-29 10:18:35 UTC  

yeah

2018-07-29 10:18:58 UTC  

@Schedrevka There was a benevolent dictator, Thomas Sankara of Burkina Faso

2018-07-29 10:19:24 UTC  

Under him, it became the most prosperous country in africa

2018-07-29 10:19:58 UTC  

the least smelly turd award eh?

2018-07-29 10:20:18 UTC  

Nah he was genuinely a great guy

2018-07-29 10:20:43 UTC  

lol

2018-07-29 10:22:01 UTC  

Josip Broz Tito was considered a "benevolent dictator"

2018-07-29 10:22:09 UTC  

ill say

2018-07-29 10:22:17 UTC  

he wrote that song africa

2018-07-29 10:22:22 UTC  

by toto?

2018-07-29 10:22:31 UTC  

toto tito