Message from @Dennafen

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2018-08-08 16:49:09 UTC  

with Flat tax of like Rye said 35%

a person who makes
1,000,000
will pay 350,000 taxes

and a person who makes
10,000

will pay 3,500 in taxes

So rich still pay more

2018-08-08 16:49:13 UTC  

That's just 3 percent of a million dollars

2018-08-08 16:49:49 UTC  

There is a curve though when taxing people

2018-08-08 16:49:59 UTC  

besides, just scrap congress income a bit,

Not like those old farts are gonna need that money,

They don't use drugs, or hookers, or anything thats fun and costly, and will cause a scandal

2018-08-08 16:50:02 UTC  

So when they talk about taxing companies more

2018-08-08 16:50:04 UTC  

Does the curve stay the same at every level?

2018-08-08 16:50:24 UTC  

flat tax means everyone pays the same %

2018-08-08 16:50:28 UTC  

They're talking about amounts the size of employee salaries

2018-08-08 16:50:47 UTC  

If you're running a razor thin margin

2018-08-08 16:51:00 UTC  

And you get a 3 percent tax hike

2018-08-08 16:51:04 UTC  

Consumption Tax seems to make sense to me, but I don't know how well it would really work.

2018-08-08 16:51:06 UTC  

That's a man down

2018-08-08 16:51:08 UTC  

Easy

2018-08-08 16:51:15 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/476794535725498378/220px-LafferCurve.png

2018-08-08 16:51:16 UTC  

best part about a flat tax? no more tax brackets, except maybe at the bottom end.

2018-08-08 16:51:22 UTC  

I mean the laffer curve

2018-08-08 16:51:23 UTC  

dafuq is a Consumption tax?

2018-08-08 16:51:33 UTC  

I like brackets personally

2018-08-08 16:51:39 UTC  

I was using a flat tax as an example

2018-08-08 16:51:57 UTC  

if you make the bottom end of a tax bracket, you could be taking home less money than if you were in the higher end of the lower bracket

2018-08-08 16:52:02 UTC  

I get out near the top of the tax brackets regardless so, it doesn't really matter to me.

2018-08-08 16:52:07 UTC  

in other words, you end up making less money from a raise

2018-08-08 16:52:13 UTC  

that seems like a punishment to me

2018-08-08 16:52:18 UTC  

no

2018-08-08 16:52:22 UTC  

So, that 3 percent tax hike that equates to an entire employee's salary

2018-08-08 16:52:26 UTC  

not in progressive tax system

2018-08-08 16:52:32 UTC  

making more is always better

2018-08-08 16:52:35 UTC  

depends on the tax system

2018-08-08 16:52:43 UTC  

Is hitting across the board

2018-08-08 16:52:51 UTC  

Meaning less money in the econony

2018-08-08 16:52:52 UTC  

whatever the current system is, that is how it works

2018-08-08 16:52:55 UTC  

In the progressive tax system you make less from a raise the more money you make.

2018-08-08 16:53:01 UTC  

It sinks back into the system

2018-08-08 16:53:09 UTC  

if you pay 30% tax at 50,000 a year income

And 35% tax at 51,000 a year income

You're gonna lose out 😛

2018-08-08 16:53:10 UTC  

unless you are telling me that isn't what has happened to my family and friends from time to time.

2018-08-08 16:53:13 UTC  

That means sales will likely drop as well

2018-08-08 16:53:15 UTC  

@RyeNorth it depends on how much tax there is to begin with

2018-08-08 16:53:32 UTC  

I gave a very specific and realistic example

2018-08-08 16:53:39 UTC  

You only pay the increased tax on the income above the bracket.

2018-08-08 16:53:42 UTC  

There is a point where increases do become constrictive

2018-08-08 16:53:44 UTC  

Million dollar a year projected income