Message from @Awrini

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2018-08-08 17:02:16 UTC  

Theres no trade you learn

And pondering things from a different angle is just general Philosophy

2018-08-08 17:02:22 UTC  

theres nothing Gender Studies teaches you

2018-08-08 17:02:29 UTC  

thats specific to gender studies

2018-08-08 17:02:32 UTC  

Trades aren't the only useful knowledge you can have.

2018-08-08 17:02:44 UTC  

any knowledge outside a trade can be done outside school

2018-08-08 17:02:54 UTC  

school should be there to teach you a trade, so you can find specialised work

2018-08-08 17:02:56 UTC  

No.

2018-08-08 17:03:01 UTC  

does it take into account cost of living in the given area? because i feel like even the poor with working jobs in say California are rich if you just look at some of their salaries

2018-08-08 17:03:25 UTC  

You can read books by philosophers that doesn't make you a philosopher.

2018-08-08 17:03:40 UTC  

@Grenade123 That is usually handled more by city taxing, and wages

2018-08-08 17:03:44 UTC  

you can read books on how to philosophise

2018-08-08 17:03:47 UTC  

You can read books, and great authors, that doesn't make you a writer.

2018-08-08 17:04:20 UTC  

so then the feds shouldn't be taxing people, more taxing the states.

2018-08-08 17:04:51 UTC  

@Grenade123 Someone choosing to live in an expensive area are using their wealth to do so though as well so that should be factored in

2018-08-08 17:04:51 UTC  

i mean, if they are too far removed to really know the cost of living, why tax everyone when 70k could mean you are rich in like Louisiana and poor in cali.

2018-08-08 17:04:57 UTC  

No, philosophies is a cohortative line of education, it's part of you must challenge arguments, and have yours be challenged.

2018-08-08 17:05:14 UTC  

@Grenade123 For sure a lot of taxing and spending should be moved to the states

2018-08-08 17:05:15 UTC  

yes, and how do you need a full college class for that?

2018-08-08 17:05:33 UTC  

Argumentation isn't a skill that emerges naturally.

2018-08-08 17:05:39 UTC  

you can write a book "The fundamentals of Philosophy" and sell it for 30 bucks

2018-08-08 17:05:42 UTC  

Sure it is

2018-08-08 17:05:46 UTC  

i think all that power should be moved down. cut some the state stuff, give it to towns, replace it with power from the feds

2018-08-08 17:05:50 UTC  

give that to the states

2018-08-08 17:06:00 UTC  

Argumentation is a skill you learn by argumenting

Having debates

2018-08-08 17:06:03 UTC  

@Awrini Being contrary isn't the same thing as argumentation.

2018-08-08 17:06:14 UTC  

@Grenade123 The same job in Louisiana typically pays more in Cali, but they can still move if they like

2018-08-08 17:06:26 UTC  

Debates aren't argumentation.

2018-08-08 17:06:27 UTC  

A person who learns "The fine skill of arguing" will not suddenly become a great debater

2018-08-08 17:06:37 UTC  

Debates require argumentation

2018-08-08 17:06:40 UTC  

I'm not being contrary. True argumentation comes from gathering knowledge.

2018-08-08 17:06:40 UTC  

Arguing isn't argumentation.

2018-08-08 17:06:50 UTC  

you know what i mean

2018-08-08 17:06:57 UTC  

@Grenade123 The Fed imo mostly only should do international affairs, I don''t see much they should be responsible beyond that

2018-08-08 17:06:59 UTC  

don't strawman my poor use of my 2nd language

2018-08-08 17:07:01 UTC  

Yes, and it's not what I'm talking about.

2018-08-08 17:07:05 UTC  

agreed

2018-08-08 17:07:08 UTC  

I'm not.

2018-08-08 17:07:31 UTC  

You are, you know what i mean and deliberately put me in a bad light for using wrong words by pointing them out

2018-08-08 17:08:01 UTC  

When you are arguementative, yiu are also expected to be able to reinforce your arguements with facts.

2018-08-08 17:08:08 UTC  

No, I'm not. You are talking about taking separate position, and arguing over which is correct.

2018-08-08 17:08:13 UTC  

That is not argumentation.