Message from @Dr.Wol

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2018-08-11 13:11:09 UTC  

and that is WHY those military people get less, because the government can't afford it

2018-08-11 13:11:57 UTC  

but if a company can earn Trillions by strip-mining asteroids, its not gonna care about racking out a few extra million for hazard pay

2018-08-11 13:12:32 UTC  

Look into Khan's education system, that will be the future

2018-08-11 13:12:35 UTC  

I think talking about strip-mining asteroids is deflecting from the problem we're facing in the near future.

2018-08-11 13:12:50 UTC  

Sci-fi hand-waving.

2018-08-11 13:13:28 UTC  

i'll grant you the term is far fetched,

That doesn't take away the future of economy after labor jobs are automated, lies in the stars

2018-08-11 13:13:40 UTC  

If anyone is freaking out about automated Jobs the solution or at least a big part of it is quite simple

2018-08-11 13:13:41 UTC  

Or in war

2018-08-11 13:14:03 UTC  

90% of the labor people aren't fit for higher education,

They need simple jobs

2018-08-11 13:14:15 UTC  

so either give them a drill or a gun

2018-08-11 13:14:45 UTC  

Shorter work weeks

2018-08-11 13:15:49 UTC  

This whole conversation is something that should be happening as part of the national political dialogue. Instead we get "free healthcare, free university, free housing, free this, free that".

2018-08-11 13:16:04 UTC  

Thats because its more appealing

2018-08-11 13:16:08 UTC  

"free"

2018-08-11 13:16:24 UTC  

"You get another job" sounds awful compared to

"You get free housing and education"

2018-08-11 13:16:57 UTC  

thats why the Universal Basic Income is such a non-debate

2018-08-11 13:17:11 UTC  

people all talk about it

No one debates about the truth which is that its unsustainable

2018-08-11 13:17:27 UTC  

its all just wishful thinking to sway the guillible masses

2018-08-11 13:17:48 UTC  

Certainly even if necessary the conditions are way off from now

2018-08-11 13:18:06 UTC  

UBI can't work, but I think negative income tax is worth exploring.

2018-08-11 13:18:39 UTC  

dafuq is negative income tax?

2018-08-11 13:18:55 UTC  

Work is still required; it's just that your income is augmented.

2018-08-11 13:19:06 UTC  

so just higher wages?

2018-08-11 13:19:29 UTC  

Or cutting the tax you have to pay to SS?

2018-08-11 13:20:00 UTC  

Let's say that $35k is deemed subsistence income, and that you have a labor income of $25k. You would receive monthly tax credits totaling $10k.

2018-08-11 13:20:08 UTC  

Rather negative income would probably take for SS then givre you money from a different pool

2018-08-11 13:20:17 UTC  

SS is a different beast.

2018-08-11 13:20:21 UTC  

It shouldn't exist.

2018-08-11 13:20:30 UTC  

Ponzi scheme.

2018-08-11 13:20:52 UTC  

so subsidiaries?

2018-08-11 13:21:14 UTC  

Subsidies?

2018-08-11 13:21:17 UTC  

yes

2018-08-11 13:21:20 UTC  

I guess.

2018-08-11 13:21:24 UTC  

English not my 1st Language 😛

2018-08-11 13:21:27 UTC  

Is Federal government funding this?

2018-08-11 13:21:52 UTC  

Ideally this would be state level.

2018-08-11 13:22:12 UTC  

But I don't know if that would work.

2018-08-11 13:22:19 UTC  

Subsidies don't work, the netherlands have them,

The people become convinced they're entitled to the money, as a bonus

And then complain their regular income is too low, completely forgetting they're getting extra money already

2018-08-11 13:22:21 UTC  

I don't know if any of this would work.

2018-08-11 13:22:29 UTC  

Do you offer this to people who choose to live in expensive areas?

2018-08-11 13:23:05 UTC  

The subsistence level wouldn't really permit them to survive there, but sure.