Message from @Beemann

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2018-08-16 20:55:03 UTC  

Maybe corporate neoliberals

2018-08-16 20:55:09 UTC  

I am more into modernizing , making things transparent are more cost effective

2018-08-16 20:55:18 UTC  

Thats my kind of left

2018-08-16 20:55:47 UTC  

yeah maybe, but not entirely sure what corporate is supposed to represent

2018-08-16 20:56:13 UTC  

Unfortunately no western left wing party has this agenda atm

2018-08-16 20:56:28 UTC  

Its always just spend more money on things

2018-08-16 20:57:20 UTC  

"Lets fix the preblem *for now*"

2018-08-16 20:58:17 UTC  

Corporate democrats( and Republicans honestly) are bought by corporations and work in tandem with corporate media. I consider them part of the same ruling class.

2018-08-16 20:58:27 UTC  

oh right, like corporatist

2018-08-16 20:58:58 UTC  

They marry , socialize , and all literally work with each other.

2018-08-16 20:59:10 UTC  

Yeah that works

2018-08-16 20:59:25 UTC  

Throw intelligence in there too

2018-08-16 21:00:00 UTC  

@NativeInterface authoritarian is not a relative position

2018-08-16 21:00:43 UTC  

well being pro tax is authoritarian

2018-08-16 21:00:54 UTC  

No it isn't

2018-08-16 21:01:24 UTC  

how is funding something by threatening people with a law not authoritarian? of course it is

2018-08-16 21:01:43 UTC  

>libstits
>cuntservatives
>nazboi
>leftypol

2018-08-16 21:02:00 UTC  

so if you gonna use it as a negative label, recognize a lot of people find some authoritarianism legitimate

2018-08-16 21:02:16 UTC  

"Authoritarianism is a form of governmentcharacterized by strong central power and limited political freedoms. Individual freedoms are subordinate to the state and there is no constitutional accountability under an authoritarian regime"

2018-08-16 21:02:38 UTC  

A minarchist state is not authoritarian

2018-08-16 21:03:06 UTC  

The gradient all the way up through basic republics are not authoritarian

2018-08-16 21:03:21 UTC  

well if authoritarian definition absolutely relies on the lack of accountability, okay

2018-08-16 21:03:39 UTC  

but i just understand it as a coercive authority

2018-08-16 21:03:41 UTC  

It relies on a number of factors, none of which are met by basic taxation

2018-08-16 21:03:56 UTC  

That would be a misunderstanding then

2018-08-16 21:04:06 UTC  

On the level of calling anti communists fascists

2018-08-16 21:04:49 UTC  

ok then

2018-08-16 21:05:18 UTC  

Communists aren't fascists. They just agree on everything except property rights

2018-08-16 21:05:43 UTC  

Nah that too

2018-08-16 21:05:53 UTC  

The state owns everything in a fascist regime

2018-08-16 21:06:25 UTC  

The idea though is that you make the market good so you aren't turbo fucking everyone by going commie

2018-08-16 21:06:36 UTC  

Well, they let you own something under a few exceptions

2018-08-16 21:06:46 UTC  

if it helps the state

2018-08-16 21:06:51 UTC  

No, they still own it, they just pay you more

2018-08-16 21:07:07 UTC  

I guess so

2018-08-16 21:08:37 UTC  

Italy put a classical liberal in charge of managing their economy, so it was almost functionally free, but they could pull the plug at any time

2018-08-16 21:09:48 UTC  

And at the end of the day nobody really owned the shit, they just got paid more and taxed less

2018-08-16 21:10:03 UTC  

It's a weird system

2018-08-16 21:14:26 UTC  

Not as weird as the nordic system

2018-08-16 21:14:57 UTC  

Here we go "Juan Linz's influential 1964 description of authoritarianism[2] characterized authoritarian political systems by four qualities:

Limited political pluralism, that is such regimes place constraints on political institutions and groups like legislatures, political parties and interest groups;

A basis for legitimacy based on emotion, especially the identification of the regime as a necessary evil to combat "easily recognizable societal problems" such as underdevelopment or insurgency;

Minimal social mobilization most often caused by constraints on the public such as suppression of political opponents and anti-regime activity;

Informally defined executive power with often vague and shifting powers.[3]"

2018-08-16 21:17:41 UTC  

What pill is the hardest to swallow?