that zelda was gud

I think Zelda 1 is best Zelda, really.

If.

many of rare left before MS bought them

https://youtu.be/79JCdiEQtbM

@Beemann

We're talking about the feeling its meant to convey.

facts dont care about your feelings.

Ocarina of Time is best for obvious reasons,

But almost all Zelda games are just gold

tim and sargon both covered the cnn interview with jack dorkey

Ocarina of Time is actually one of the most overrated games. Lemme redpill you

redpill me pls

i have it for my 3ds

Find the eye, use the item you just got in an obvious way, are not puzzles. A lot of the later dungeons are JUST THIS

thats...

every single "Lock and Key" mechanic ever

not red pilled

its literally called the Lock and Key mechanic

Find an item to proceed

Yes, and it's not a puzzle, it's not engaging design

LON LON MILK BRO

"Oh look there's an eye above the door I need to get through" is a tutorial

Not a puzzle, not good gameplay

BEST GAMEPLAY EVVVEEEERR REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEee

And multiple areas in OOT are wholly reliant on this kind of design

lots of games have this bread and butter formula though

its simplified cuz its a hueg game for its time

But you'll find just about any game has the Lock and Key mechanic

>huge for its time

The overall size of the gameplay area is up to the developers, further games with an open concept design predate OOT by years

well it seemed huge, but then Link pulled out the masters sword and the world just shrunk 😛

Making your game Xbox huge is not an excuse to have poor gameplay

Also if you look at say... Metroid

A lot of those games have locks for new regions, but the lock isn't the gameplay

doom

There are combat encounters in those same places. There's larger areas of traversal. You will not get a "puzzle room" like in OOT, where it's just "find the lock"

Also many of the "for its time" arguments fall flat when you look at 98's lineup

water temple

Is one dungeon

nah, thats not the lock/key system though,

In the Deku Tree sure, in the tutorial bit

But later on most of those puzzles are speed-plays, where you have to do events timed

Water Temple, Spirit Temple, Shadow Temple, Forest Temple

Forest Temple is a lot of "find the eye" shit