Message from @Atkins

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2018-08-22 00:10:39 UTC  

he said an "unnamed candidate" if i remember correctly

2018-08-22 00:10:52 UTC  

like i said, not directly, but pretty close.

2018-08-22 00:10:57 UTC  

its not on record tho

2018-08-22 00:11:24 UTC  

really i saw bloomberg as left leaning

2018-08-22 00:11:44 UTC  

i have some ex co workers that work there i can ask them

2018-08-22 00:12:35 UTC  

Isn't Bloomberg a Democrat himself?

2018-08-22 00:13:15 UTC  

idk

2018-08-22 00:13:21 UTC  

probs

2018-08-22 00:13:29 UTC  

It is impossible for the democrats to get 2/3rds of the senate because not that many seats are up for reelection in 2018. Trump cannot be removed from office unless his own party turns against him.

2018-08-22 00:13:46 UTC  

well ... so was trump... a democrat i mean

2018-08-22 00:13:47 UTC  

And if his own party turns against him... wew lad

2018-08-22 00:13:53 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/481616967732690955/unknown.png

2018-08-22 00:14:04 UTC  

Trump was a democrat

2018-08-22 00:15:08 UTC  

but then trump woke up

2018-08-22 00:15:54 UTC  

and backstabbed hilldawg

2018-08-22 00:20:39 UTC  

Among Republicans Trump is massively popular. Overwhelming support for him regardless of any scandals.

2018-08-22 00:20:48 UTC  

@wacka Bloomberg is *not* Trump-leaning.

Bloomberg flips parties every couple elections. He started as a Democrat but switched to Republican before he was elected mayor (during the heavy R wave following 9/11) but then switched to independent partway through. Currently he's thrown in his hat to run against Trump in 2020 as a Democrat.

Mostly Bloomberg is a true aristocrat. He's worth billions and banned soda in NYC and has pushed regressive taxation to control behavior. Now he's known mostly for pushing gun control via Everytown (which he's bankrolling).

2018-08-22 00:21:25 UTC  

So any Republican senator voting to impeach him would be committing political suicide.

2018-08-22 00:21:25 UTC  
2018-08-22 00:24:08 UTC  

watching the vid meow 🐱

2018-08-22 00:24:21 UTC  

I dunno about Mueller staying out of this; wasn't this started because they seized all his office records and had him under pressure for some scam with taxi medallions? Pretty sure Mueller will do anything he can to try to take down Trump.

2018-08-22 00:24:55 UTC  

@wacka that does seem to be a neutral assesment

2018-08-22 00:25:26 UTC  

i have some lefties on my fb getting boners over this shit im lol'ing

2018-08-22 00:25:50 UTC  

yea lots of people are wanking to this

2018-08-22 00:28:10 UTC  

It's purely an emotional reaction. There is no logic to this obsession with impeaching Trump. They do not have the votes to remove him from office and the best they can hope to achieve is to have the house impeach him, which does fuck all as seen from Clinton.

2018-08-22 00:30:15 UTC  

Actually, it likely backfires.

2018-08-22 00:30:18 UTC  

It only makes sense if the democrats believe they need to focus on Trump as a distraction from their own internal problems. I mean, other than screeching about Trump what else do democrats have policy-wise to convince people to vote for them.

2018-08-22 00:30:58 UTC  

I know the DNC doesn't want to have a conversation about what happened with the nomination and reforming the superdelegate system

2018-08-22 00:31:39 UTC  

And they definitely don't want people talking about their deputy chair being a woman beater

2018-08-22 00:32:09 UTC  

And then there's that "how are we going to pay for that" question that they'd rather people not ask.

2018-08-22 00:32:47 UTC  

So in light of that keeping the focus on Trump makes sense. Without him they'd have to actually grapple with their faults.

2018-08-22 00:33:06 UTC  

It causes the Republican base to rally (unless something real and serious is used to impeach Trump).

Impeaching Clinton caused his popularity to *spike*

https://news.gallup.com/poll/116584/Presidential-Approval-Ratings-Bill-Clinton.aspx

Impeachment charges were laid in December. The Republicans made it look like a partisan witchhunt and it backfired.

2018-08-22 00:34:01 UTC  

@Atkins

Strategically, all the Dems need to do is rally against Trump. That's it. No need to lay policy. No need to distract from anything. Just get the base really, really angry at Trump so they show up to vote.

2018-08-22 00:34:03 UTC  

Oh yeah. It was utterly pointless. The impeachment process is really, really difficult because it's only meant to be used for the gravest of offenses.

2018-08-22 00:35:09 UTC  

I dont' even think it shoulda been used on Clinton

2018-08-22 00:35:11 UTC  

The Democrat leadership is playing it smart when they float the idea of impeachment but never actually move forward with it. It ignites the imaginations of the base but doesn't distract them from more important matters or become a rallying point. It also keeps them from having to actually publicly declare what they have against Trump.

2018-08-22 00:35:29 UTC  

They also certainly remember what happened in 1998.

2018-08-22 00:35:41 UTC  

Yeah, makes sense. The Republicans are doing a really shitty job of countering it too.

2018-08-22 00:35:56 UTC  

I think they all hate Trump

2018-08-22 00:36:04 UTC  

Oh yeah, 90% of them.

2018-08-22 00:36:14 UTC  

And their voters LOVE Trump.