well ... so was trump... a democrat i mean

And if his own party turns against him... wew lad

Trump was a democrat

but then trump woke up

and backstabbed hilldawg

Among Republicans Trump is massively popular. Overwhelming support for him regardless of any scandals.

@wacka Bloomberg is *not* Trump-leaning.

Bloomberg flips parties every couple elections. He started as a Democrat but switched to Republican before he was elected mayor (during the heavy R wave following 9/11) but then switched to independent partway through. Currently he's thrown in his hat to run against Trump in 2020 as a Democrat.

Mostly Bloomberg is a true aristocrat. He's worth billions and banned soda in NYC and has pushed regressive taxation to control behavior. Now he's known mostly for pushing gun control via Everytown (which he's bankrolling).

So any Republican senator voting to impeach him would be committing political suicide.

this seems pretty fair tbh https://twitter.com/BloombergTV/status/1032017669933780992?s=20

watching the vid meow 🐱

I dunno about Mueller staying out of this; wasn't this started because they seized all his office records and had him under pressure for some scam with taxi medallions? Pretty sure Mueller will do anything he can to try to take down Trump.

@wacka that does seem to be a neutral assesment

i have some lefties on my fb getting boners over this shit im lol'ing

yea lots of people are wanking to this

It's purely an emotional reaction. There is no logic to this obsession with impeaching Trump. They do not have the votes to remove him from office and the best they can hope to achieve is to have the house impeach him, which does fuck all as seen from Clinton.

Actually, it likely backfires.

It only makes sense if the democrats believe they need to focus on Trump as a distraction from their own internal problems. I mean, other than screeching about Trump what else do democrats have policy-wise to convince people to vote for them.

I know the DNC doesn't want to have a conversation about what happened with the nomination and reforming the superdelegate system

And they definitely don't want people talking about their deputy chair being a woman beater

And then there's that "how are we going to pay for that" question that they'd rather people not ask.

So in light of that keeping the focus on Trump makes sense. Without him they'd have to actually grapple with their faults.

It causes the Republican base to rally (unless something real and serious is used to impeach Trump).

Impeaching Clinton caused his popularity to *spike*

https://news.gallup.com/poll/116584/Presidential-Approval-Ratings-Bill-Clinton.aspx

Impeachment charges were laid in December. The Republicans made it look like a partisan witchhunt and it backfired.

@Atkins

Strategically, all the Dems need to do is rally against Trump. That's it. No need to lay policy. No need to distract from anything. Just get the base really, really angry at Trump so they show up to vote.

Oh yeah. It was utterly pointless. The impeachment process is really, really difficult because it's only meant to be used for the gravest of offenses.

I dont' even think it shoulda been used on Clinton

The Democrat leadership is playing it smart when they float the idea of impeachment but never actually move forward with it. It ignites the imaginations of the base but doesn't distract them from more important matters or become a rallying point. It also keeps them from having to actually publicly declare what they have against Trump.

They also certainly remember what happened in 1998.

Yeah, makes sense. The Republicans are doing a really shitty job of countering it too.

I think they all hate Trump

Oh yeah, 90% of them.

And their voters LOVE Trump.

cept for cruz and paul

Im surprised to see Cruz actually become a Trump ally

Paul not so much, I think they agree on alot

I've seen comparisons of Trump and Clinton. Both had a really messy start. Both are actually kinda moderate when you get to the issues. Both were heavily demonized by the other side.

Clinton also led to the Republicans gaining control of Congress for the first time in a very, very long time. (The Republican Revolution as it was called)

Most Republican officials are absolute scum. I'd piss on them if they were on fire, then light them on fire again.

Yeah well. Army you got. You've only got two choices for the most part.

hmm oceans 8 is already out on 1080 web-dl ... I didnt even know it was out

not even going to waste the bw

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