Message from @Timcast

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2018-08-22 02:24:06 UTC  

"The American Brahmins" as I've heard it called.

2018-08-22 02:24:48 UTC  

I should say. I really dislike the terms 'right side of history" "progressive" and "regressive" it's too easy to make these things mean whatever you want.

2018-08-22 02:25:02 UTC  

I think IDPol will ultimately have to change to be more receptive to everyone

2018-08-22 02:25:11 UTC  

if it hopes to survive the paradigm

2018-08-22 02:25:55 UTC  

i use regressive in regards to IDPol as pushed by both the alt-left and alt-right to justify their racism

2018-08-22 02:26:37 UTC  

I think IDPol may not necessarily be inherently insidious but can easily be used as such

2018-08-22 02:27:36 UTC  

Going back to Tim's question

The Right will say that The Great Society really destroyed the Country.

The Moynihan Report really mirrors modern discourse well.

2018-08-22 02:27:36 UTC  

I use regressive on both sides to refer to any reverse in what social progress we have ACTUALLY achieved

2018-08-22 02:28:53 UTC  

Its not that we dont need more ACTUAL progress, its that we seem to be trying to go about it in such a way that the reverse is occuring, just from a different "perspective"

2018-08-22 02:29:38 UTC  

idk im ultimately a solutions guy, and i dont think IDPol is a viable way to reach said solutions

2018-08-22 02:30:28 UTC  

@Timcast Any particular areas you had in mind with respect to the Democrats doing messed up stuff?

2018-08-22 02:30:39 UTC  

no im good

2018-08-22 02:30:50 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/481651435054956555/ortz.png

2018-08-22 02:31:01 UTC  

uhhhh

2018-08-22 02:31:05 UTC  

its fake

2018-08-22 02:31:09 UTC  

lmao

2018-08-22 02:31:12 UTC  

ok that makes sense

2018-08-22 02:31:28 UTC  

I know shes made a sport out of PR blunders but that would be a step up

2018-08-22 02:31:31 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/481651606396600321/38492411_1789009107856432_5594967872599228416_n.jpg

2018-08-22 02:31:51 UTC  

I was going to say. It looked fake. But could almost be real. Had she not said "It's time for us to come home" and then brought up reparations or something I would totally believe it.

2018-08-22 02:31:56 UTC  

i just think its funny that anyone would try to use history as evidence of good deeds or honor

2018-08-22 02:32:05 UTC  

Hang on I have a meme for this

2018-08-22 02:32:06 UTC  

especially when the kkk and jim crow were AFTER ther new deal

2018-08-22 02:32:27 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/481651838836277248/Trust_in_people_who_claim_to_be_on_the_right_side_of_history.jpg

2018-08-22 02:32:35 UTC  

History obsession is how wars continue and never stop.

2018-08-22 02:32:50 UTC  

Seeking "justice" and never offering "forgiveness"

2018-08-22 02:33:42 UTC  

See as someone with a BS in history i can say that understanding history and learning from it is important, but you cannot allow yourself to get trapped in it.

2018-08-22 02:33:59 UTC  

you have to live in the present

2018-08-22 02:34:05 UTC  

learn from the past

2018-08-22 02:34:13 UTC  

and strive for a better future

2018-08-22 02:34:23 UTC  

I was going to say hope for a better future, but yours is better

2018-08-22 02:34:54 UTC  

Just got to the vid about the berniebro who got his head bashed in

2018-08-22 02:35:00 UTC  

i say strive because one must be actively involved to make it happen but hopes not bad either

2018-08-22 02:35:03 UTC  

Antifa just needs to fuck off at this point eh

2018-08-22 02:35:19 UTC  

Lagomaster, hence why I said yours is better

2018-08-22 02:35:20 UTC  

Hoping for change does as much good as liking a facebook page for a worthycause

2018-08-22 02:35:38 UTC  

glad they are considered terrorists but idk if we've done enough about them

2018-08-22 02:35:45 UTC  

they are hard to pin down

2018-08-22 02:36:42 UTC  

Its not worth devoting resources to them

2018-08-22 02:36:55 UTC  

for the moment it would do nothing but increase the validity of their rhetoric

2018-08-22 02:36:56 UTC  

Democrats were the creators and solders of the Confederate army. Democrats were the founders of the KKK in attempt to segregated and keep blacks from mingling with the whites, then when civil rights era came along they found against black's getting their rights. Democrats fought against almost every single civil rights piece except for the last one, they figured if they can't win, they will use the blacks by keeping them under their party as loyal voting block.