Message from @Muzical

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2018-08-23 22:13:14 UTC  

and you're right i should've read up on what each term means instead of just assuming based on name 😛

2018-08-23 22:13:35 UTC  

Intelligentsia is not what i thought it was xD its waht Blackhawk said basically, Snobs

2018-08-23 22:14:02 UTC  

Yeah, that's the point of me asking. I'm trying to make the name to be obvious and complex.

2018-08-23 22:14:23 UTC  

So people that never heard the name before, will instantly get an idea of what it means

2018-08-23 22:15:35 UTC  

@Dr.Wol Snobs, I'd think those are just elites

2018-08-23 22:16:18 UTC  

I'm not even talking about pseudo-intellectuals

2018-08-23 22:16:26 UTC  

elites are usually bullet sponges

2018-08-23 22:16:42 UTC  

@NativeInterface No, that's the useful idiots

2018-08-23 22:18:22 UTC  

Elite: The disconnected from the non-elite that think they can bring forth Utopia because they don't understand how difficult reality is anymore

Intelligentsia: The snobs who critique and dilute themselves into thinking they can bring forth Utopia cuz they're so smart

Corporate Nationalists: People who wanna nationalise corporations for "the good of the land"

Self-Hating Socialists: Horse Shoe idiots

Horse Shoe Idiots: People who believe "If we just remove X, everything else will sort itself out and all shall be well"

2018-08-23 22:21:06 UTC  

@Dr.Wol I think we need to switch non-elite with snobs.
Replace the snobs with 'intellectuals' that are disconnected from normal people

2018-08-23 22:22:11 UTC  

Self-Hating Socialists
I'm trying to describe what george orwell has called socialists in his cook. "People that don't love the working class, but hate their own."

2018-08-23 22:22:18 UTC  

elite: corporate nationalists
intelligentsia: self-hating socialists
corporate nationalists: self-hating socialists
self-hating socialists: self-hating socialists
horse shoe idiots: horse shoe idiots

2018-08-23 22:22:21 UTC  

*book

2018-08-23 22:22:55 UTC  

@NativeInterface You can just put your own name man

2018-08-23 22:23:12 UTC  

I mean names for what you think they should be called

2018-08-23 22:23:44 UTC  

savagay

2018-08-23 22:23:45 UTC  

I'm trying to create a philosophy that right-wing and left-wing populists could agree on

2018-08-23 22:23:52 UTC  

i see

2018-08-23 22:24:27 UTC  

Anti-Corporate
Anti-Elite
Anti-Intellectual bourgeoisie
etc

2018-08-23 22:25:11 UTC  

@RanStairs They're the exact same people

the difference is that Elites are disconnected because they're in a seperate "high society" in which all they have is sycophants and yes-men
So if they wonder "Does my plan work?" their friends and servants will say "Oh yes, you are so smart and kind"

Intelligentsia are basically those socialists who think that if we just take all the money from the rich, it will all suddenly work cuz people will happily shovel poop now that they get paid the same as a lawyer

2018-08-23 22:25:19 UTC  

Um, communism already exists.

2018-08-23 22:25:34 UTC  

well im pretty sure both sides agree that corporations and states are too merged and thats the origin of most problems in society

2018-08-23 22:25:45 UTC  

And I'm late because my client's not scrolling chat like it should.

2018-08-23 22:25:58 UTC  

@Dr.Wol When I say Elite, I mean people that understand what their doing and only work in they're own selfish-interest

2018-08-23 22:26:30 UTC  

Those don't exist in the world of politics,

Trump maybe as the golden child

2018-08-23 22:26:38 UTC  

they mostly just argue if they hate corporations or states the most

2018-08-23 22:26:50 UTC  

If the "Elite" knew what they were doing, they wouldn't be despised by the common man, and they'd have actual running countries

2018-08-23 22:27:25 UTC  

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2018-08-23 22:27:39 UTC  

@Dr.Wol I mean, they know what they want. That has nothing to do with the people's interest.

2018-08-23 22:28:31 UTC  

again, if the elite knew what they were doing, they'd be succesful at it, as you can clearly see, none of the current "elite" are very succesful in what they're doing

2018-08-23 22:28:39 UTC  

What I mean by Self-Hating Socialists, high class retards that think they know what people want, but really, they have no damn clue what it's like to be in the working class

2018-08-23 22:28:57 UTC  

your 5 names basically amount to the same kind of person

2018-08-23 22:29:07 UTC  

An random joe who thinks "They know how to fix it all"

2018-08-23 22:29:42 UTC  

@ExceptionalFeather Of course they aren't spotlights are pointed on them and other groups like I said before are trying to compete for the same power

2018-08-23 22:30:49 UTC  

The only thing that all of these groups have in common is that they want power and some are doing it for selfish reasons and only a few don't realize the world they're bringing.

2018-08-23 22:31:52 UTC  

so you're trying to unite the left and right by giving them common enemies?

2018-08-23 22:32:00 UTC  

Again, help and change the names in they're bad

2018-08-23 22:32:11 UTC  

even those that do it for selfish reasons don't realise the world they're bringing, look at hillary

2018-08-23 22:32:27 UTC  

@NativeInterface Essentially

2018-08-23 22:33:04 UTC  

"Proto-Authoritarian Idealists" They all have the ideal of "fixing the world", they're willing to use any means once they have the power

And they're just not there yet?

2018-08-23 22:33:10 UTC  

@Dr.Wol Hillary has an idea of she wants. Her voters don't know what she wants.