Message from @Stefan Payne

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2018-08-31 21:30:24 UTC  

You need to have a philosophy of some kind.

2018-08-31 21:30:24 UTC  

Really, alot of these kinds of fights are clarified if everyone can agree to some definitions and limits on the discussion first.

2018-08-31 21:30:31 UTC  

Science promises no philosophy at all.

2018-08-31 21:30:39 UTC  

I'll bet that more or less everyone is working off something different.

2018-08-31 21:30:40 UTC  

True, @pratel I agree with that.
So lets define Religion with a thing that brings people together, gives them a reason to live and chain the beast inside of them.

2018-08-31 21:30:49 UTC  

When is the guy who's going to parrot Jordan Peterson's "whatever you care about and believe in is ur god lol" shit going to turn up?

2018-08-31 21:30:56 UTC  

That's a nonsensical definition

2018-08-31 21:31:09 UTC  

the angriest, sadest, most viscious person i avoid in my normal gaming discord is a hardline aitheist, ofc im not dumb enough to think all aitheists are like this. most of the nicer and more interesting people are also aitheist, but two of them in particular are also in the Middle East and have more valid reasons to hate religion then said angry-gamer American Aitheist guy, yet both of them are like 'o wow i like these intellectual darkweb things you sent me about religion', meanwhile angry American guy just reposts his own sentiment in more extreme ways over and over again....

Thats more a commentary on choosing not to look into other views and viewing everything as a argument rather then a debate tho

2018-08-31 21:31:09 UTC  

But packing the philosophy in with a bunch of fucking nonsense that TOO MANY people take literally. I'll never go in for it.

2018-08-31 21:31:16 UTC  

It's like when people try to define communism as "a successful system that..."

2018-08-31 21:31:28 UTC  

Enforce the emphasis on metaphor.

2018-08-31 21:31:33 UTC  

@Stefan Payne I can agree with that. But then it would include things like nationalism or hobbies.

2018-08-31 21:31:40 UTC  

Then your religion is okay.

2018-08-31 21:31:41 UTC  

Which would be a bit broad.

2018-08-31 21:31:57 UTC  

Militant Athieist have the tendancy of being the "Deluded pychopaths" the accuse religious people of being

2018-08-31 21:32:06 UTC  

I think it's mainly the people who build their identity around being atheist that are the annoying ones. Since most of them tend to have felt really betrayed by their upbringing

2018-08-31 21:32:07 UTC  

That's anti-theist.

2018-08-31 21:32:07 UTC  

Defining ideologies by results is dishonest

2018-08-31 21:32:27 UTC  

@Schedrevka Yes. And alot of them are just indoctrinated on social media.

2018-08-31 21:32:33 UTC  

My summation is this, I will not approve of action taken against people who hold a set of beliefs just because the beliefs are certifiably terrible. I will always condemn the actions taken, instead.

2018-08-31 21:32:39 UTC  

```@Stefan Payne I can agree with that. But then it would include things like nationalism or hobbies.```
Hobbies not neccesarily, but that's exactly my point that people look for something to believe in and if you remove religion, there is a void that has to be filled somehow.

2018-08-31 21:32:41 UTC  

Militant atheist should be an absurdist term.

2018-08-31 21:32:47 UTC  

It's like the neutral people.

2018-08-31 21:32:59 UTC  

It's funny because it contradicts IMMEDIATELY

2018-08-31 21:33:11 UTC  

Not necesarily.

2018-08-31 21:33:18 UTC  

Militant atheists exist...

2018-08-31 21:33:20 UTC  

Lacking belief is not something you can get aggressive about. Insisting other people not believe in THEIR shit, is. And there's a word for that. A different word. ANTI-THEIST.

2018-08-31 21:33:22 UTC  

ANTI.

2018-08-31 21:33:23 UTC  

And the worst things that could fill this Religios Void is Intersectional Feminism, Marxism, the Religion of Social Justice or Political Partys.

2018-08-31 21:33:23 UTC  

THEIST.

2018-08-31 21:33:25 UTC  

LEARN IT.

2018-08-31 21:33:30 UTC  

But sadly we have to deal with them.

2018-08-31 21:33:32 UTC  

**LEARN IT**

2018-08-31 21:33:35 UTC  

You're making the assumption that *all* people need something to fill their spiritual hole. Not all people are the same

2018-08-31 21:33:39 UTC  

@Khanclansith ya thats my problem, i suppose its worthwhile to preface 'Militant Athieist', they are no more athieist , but like to somehow pretend they are and want to demand people bend to them

2018-08-31 21:33:58 UTC  

*they have seen the light*

2018-08-31 21:33:59 UTC  

Sched, I think most people do.

2018-08-31 21:34:03 UTC  

ANTI-THEIST YOU THICK FUCK.

2018-08-31 21:34:03 UTC  

it all ends up sounding religious

2018-08-31 21:34:04 UTC  

"The English word militant is both an adjective and a noun, and is generally used to mean vigorously active, combative and aggressive, especially in support of a cause"