Message from @RyeNorth

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2018-09-01 02:04:07 UTC  

Jesus christ, his 'rapist conundrum' is so poorly thought out...

2018-09-01 02:04:21 UTC  

with the yakuza ?

2018-09-01 02:04:42 UTC  

He's making presumptions that SJWs would allow for it

2018-09-01 02:04:52 UTC  

Rather unbased.

2018-09-01 02:05:14 UTC  

'Well, my opposition would probably do such a dastardly thing'

2018-09-01 02:06:30 UTC  

not gonna lie .... i dont get it, tim's poll and vee explaining it

2018-09-01 02:06:44 UTC  

i get that an innocent person should not be put in jail

2018-09-01 02:06:57 UTC  

Tim's poll is straightforward.

2018-09-01 02:07:08 UTC  

but the freeing 10 instead of one innocent remins me of the trolley conondrum

2018-09-01 02:07:25 UTC  

It is, sort of, but it's one that's far more fair.

2018-09-01 02:08:30 UTC  

The Trolley scenario is more of a deterministic 'kobayashi maru'.

2018-09-01 02:08:46 UTC  

kobayashi maru lmao that damn star trek puzzle

2018-09-01 02:09:02 UTC  

Regardless of what you do, people will die.

2018-09-01 02:09:17 UTC  

you can kill one person, or ten people. Let's not get into variants.

2018-09-01 02:09:37 UTC  

It's headed towards 10 people, you can pull the switch to kill only one person.

2018-09-01 02:09:52 UTC  

Interpretations of decisions can vary wildly

2018-09-01 02:10:21 UTC  

Refusing to pull the switch could be a result of a nihilistic worldview

2018-09-01 02:10:43 UTC  

Or it could be an acknowledgement that by pulling the switch, you have taken ownership of the problem

2018-09-01 02:10:55 UTC  

To which there's a counter that, by NOT acting, you have still taken an action.

2018-09-01 02:11:32 UTC  

It's less of a serious question of 'what would you do' and more a question of 'how do you think'

2018-09-01 02:12:20 UTC  

The Blackstone Formulation is more targeted

2018-09-01 02:12:23 UTC  

exacty ^

2018-09-01 02:12:33 UTC  

It is a simple determination of specific principle.

2018-09-01 02:12:41 UTC  

I always choose the part of the trolly running out of power

2018-09-01 02:12:51 UTC  

fuck you, kirk.

2018-09-01 02:13:17 UTC  

😛

2018-09-01 02:13:24 UTC  

lmao

2018-09-01 02:13:37 UTC  

turn that power off then hijack it so i win s

2018-09-01 02:14:02 UTC  

"just fire two photon torpedos we need to conserve ammo"

2018-09-01 02:14:02 UTC  

so.... communist/socialist advocate for polices that violate human rights as declared by the UN (as much of a joke as they are) http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/index.html

"Article 17.

(1) Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.
(2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property."

2018-09-01 02:14:23 UTC  

FUCK THE UN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE^

2018-09-01 02:14:41 UTC  

hey, left believes in the UN right? so you can use it against them

2018-09-01 02:14:47 UTC  

A sufficiently communist person could read that and find no contradiction.

2018-09-01 02:15:02 UTC  
2018-09-01 02:15:06 UTC  

how? they don't believe in ownership of property

2018-09-01 02:15:17 UTC  

ABOLISH PROFIT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
ABOLISH THE BORDERS REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

2018-09-01 02:15:41 UTC  

I wonder what will happen if we give them that because you sure as hell know they wont stop at that shit

2018-09-01 02:17:27 UTC  

"Article 19.


Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers."

2018-09-01 02:18:22 UTC  

I feel so damn bad for Europe.

2018-09-01 02:19:13 UTC  

"I own my car, I also own my car in association with others"

2018-09-01 02:19:17 UTC  

there is yuge missing BUUUUT in there Grenade