Message from @Lagomaster24

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2018-09-05 02:45:49 UTC  

cali?

2018-09-05 02:45:52 UTC  

It's worse than "family values" at the height of the 90s

2018-09-05 02:45:54 UTC  

NY.

2018-09-05 02:46:13 UTC  

so i wonder where chicago will go now

2018-09-05 02:46:29 UTC  

bankrupt?

2018-09-05 02:46:41 UTC  

well in relation to their mayor

2018-09-05 02:49:34 UTC  

because whats his name said he wont seek reelection

2018-09-05 02:50:58 UTC  

Like my districts Dem candidate IS worth voting for (so far), they dont seem to be using ID Pol, they are born and raised in the area, have military experience (although i dont think that matters to much personally), theyve shown no signs of corruption, and seem to be principled. I plan to meet them soon so I will find out more. The Repub on the other hand has some corruption issues last i heard and unfairly aided in getting a third party candidate on the ballot, if said candidate did so on their own I wouldnt have a problem but because the Repub essentially helped I dont have much trust in them.

2018-09-05 02:51:46 UTC  

its all about whos best for the job

2018-09-05 02:51:51 UTC  

just know that ppl lie

2018-09-05 02:51:57 UTC  

yea ultimately

2018-09-05 02:52:21 UTC  

IDK. I've come to suspect that most politicians these days don't really matter that much individually.

2018-09-05 02:52:44 UTC  

They tend to just yield to the party when push comes to shove, particularly in the Democrats where the party has more levers of contorl.

2018-09-05 02:52:44 UTC  

its more the parties and the elites that tend to be the problem imo

2018-09-05 02:52:58 UTC  

Can agree a bit there.

2018-09-05 02:53:03 UTC  

well i worry that most say one thing then get in and do the completely opposite

2018-09-05 02:53:08 UTC  

^

2018-09-05 02:53:17 UTC  

@Sjaleo hi finnlander <:lel:395181420701548544>

2018-09-05 02:53:19 UTC  

god bless

2018-09-05 02:53:24 UTC  

ye thats a legitimate fear

2018-09-05 02:53:30 UTC  

especially nowadays

2018-09-05 02:54:11 UTC  

like as much as i think some of Bernies policies reek of socialism, he is at least principled

2018-09-05 02:54:22 UTC  

and sticks to them whenever possible

2018-09-05 02:55:01 UTC  

Perhaps. My concern at the end off the day is hard policy.

2018-09-05 02:55:22 UTC  

I don't like Sanders that much. I think he'd push very shortsighted socialist policies.

2018-09-05 02:56:04 UTC  

But Sanders is a has-been at this point.

2018-09-05 02:56:26 UTC  

The biggest issue i see with both parties and voters is the desire for instant results

2018-09-05 02:56:39 UTC  

thats why short term solutions are more frequent

2018-09-05 02:57:27 UTC  

I think it's that fundamentally, we tend to be voting on things in massive bundles and there's alot of stuff that the government just shouldn't be getting into in the first place. So they tend to do things poorly.

2018-09-05 02:58:00 UTC  

Some stuff should just be left to the states

2018-09-05 02:58:03 UTC  

You can't really be too selective on the core issues. Particularly when the parties are so uniform.

2018-09-05 02:58:14 UTC  

Agreed. Most stuff, in fact.

2018-09-05 02:58:37 UTC  

the problem with this is when nothing is consistent

2018-09-05 02:58:47 UTC  

ie gun laws

2018-09-05 02:59:08 UTC  

People willl always make that complaint though.

2018-09-05 02:59:12 UTC  

my biggest gripe with gun laws is that they have little consistency between states

2018-09-05 02:59:13 UTC  

It's a way of imposing will.

2018-09-05 02:59:47 UTC  

Yeah, but would you want your laws dictated by someone really far away with very different values than you?

2018-09-05 03:00:15 UTC  

Like i mentioned previously regarding the environment, i think the government should provide basic standards at the least

2018-09-05 03:00:37 UTC  

Congress is elected the way it is for a reason

2018-09-05 03:01:28 UTC  

they might be more detached than our state reps/senators, etc. but the voters put them there