we need better ways to hold them acocuntable

Like Beto "I support the 2nd amendment" O'Rouke who signed onto that semi-auto ban that passed around Congress recently.

with the internet it should be easier

I don't think that's really how it works though.

The final option of holding acocuntability is a gun to the back of your head

I mean, you get two choices.

Some people think it's an issue of 2 parties.

Semi-auto ie EVERYTHING

As long as you have that option.

i mean its a whole host of issues really

Heres the thing, dems treat anyone right of mao like shit nowadays

Yep. That's why it's so disingenuous when his shills go around Reddit saying he supports gun rights.

Obvious lie. But I doubt he's the only one.

And I doubt the paid activists are that honest either.

And they have all the time in the world to manipulate social media.

I do think that the Dems have sane people among them but they are to small to make a difference

or scared

So the internet doesn't necessarily help

It's more an issue of logistics.

fair

Suppose you're the key vote on an important issue to the Democrat donor class (guns being the big one now).

The party threatens to pull your support and starts building challengers.

im fairly pro gun, but its not something i worry about <:TohruWeary:356735628291080192>

And then they keep you from getting a say in other bills you might want.

This happens in both parties.

It's the whole job of the Whip.

consistency, bureaucracy, logistics, party, etc.

Push recalcitrant legislators to toe the party line.

yea committees arent elected btw

^

You really can't hold out forever

The party bosses tend to win out.

Atleast on major issues.

they are essentially in for life if you think about it

its fucked

I wouldn't go that far.

But they do last longer than is probably healthy.

oh def

now despite all this the power still ultimately lies with the voter, the issue with them is lack of information, and even manipulation, although not to the degree of other Countries.

I'm not sure I necessarily blame the voters.

I think apathy actually saves us from alot of the problems.