Message from @pratel

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2018-09-05 03:03:19 UTC  

I mean, you get two choices.

2018-09-05 03:03:27 UTC  

Some people think it's an issue of 2 parties.

2018-09-05 03:03:28 UTC  

Semi-auto ie EVERYTHING

2018-09-05 03:03:31 UTC  

As long as you have that option.

2018-09-05 03:03:50 UTC  

i mean its a whole host of issues really

2018-09-05 03:03:51 UTC  

Heres the thing, dems treat anyone right of mao like shit nowadays

2018-09-05 03:03:59 UTC  

Yep. That's why it's so disingenuous when his shills go around Reddit saying he supports gun rights.

2018-09-05 03:04:15 UTC  

Obvious lie. But I doubt he's the only one.

2018-09-05 03:04:29 UTC  

And I doubt the paid activists are that honest either.

2018-09-05 03:04:44 UTC  

And they have all the time in the world to manipulate social media.

2018-09-05 03:04:45 UTC  

I do think that the Dems have sane people among them but they are to small to make a difference

2018-09-05 03:04:51 UTC  

or scared

2018-09-05 03:04:55 UTC  

So the internet doesn't necessarily help

2018-09-05 03:05:01 UTC  

It's more an issue of logistics.

2018-09-05 03:05:06 UTC  

fair

2018-09-05 03:05:26 UTC  

Suppose you're the key vote on an important issue to the Democrat donor class (guns being the big one now).

2018-09-05 03:05:40 UTC  

The party threatens to pull your support and starts building challengers.

2018-09-05 03:05:49 UTC  

im fairly pro gun, but its not something i worry about <:TohruWeary:356735628291080192>

2018-09-05 03:05:50 UTC  

And then they keep you from getting a say in other bills you might want.

2018-09-05 03:06:00 UTC  

This happens in both parties.

2018-09-05 03:06:07 UTC  

It's the whole job of the Whip.

2018-09-05 03:06:18 UTC  

consistency, bureaucracy, logistics, party, etc.

2018-09-05 03:06:20 UTC  

Push recalcitrant legislators to toe the party line.

2018-09-05 03:06:35 UTC  

yea committees arent elected btw

2018-09-05 03:06:46 UTC  

^

2018-09-05 03:06:47 UTC  

You really can't hold out forever

2018-09-05 03:06:59 UTC  

The party bosses tend to win out.

2018-09-05 03:07:07 UTC  

Atleast on major issues.

2018-09-05 03:07:07 UTC  

they are essentially in for life if you think about it

2018-09-05 03:07:11 UTC  

its fucked

2018-09-05 03:07:20 UTC  

I wouldn't go that far.

2018-09-05 03:07:27 UTC  

But they do last longer than is probably healthy.

2018-09-05 03:07:39 UTC  

oh def

2018-09-05 03:09:58 UTC  

now despite all this the power still ultimately lies with the voter, the issue with them is lack of information, and even manipulation, although not to the degree of other Countries.

2018-09-05 03:10:15 UTC  

I'm not sure I necessarily blame the voters.

2018-09-05 03:10:25 UTC  

I think apathy actually saves us from alot of the problems.

2018-09-05 03:10:42 UTC  

If more voters were properly informed they could put some of the more corrupt out of power

2018-09-05 03:10:44 UTC  

I think voters are frequently in an awkward position.

2018-09-05 03:10:52 UTC  

I mean, here's the thing.

2018-09-05 03:10:56 UTC  

I want good policy.

2018-09-05 03:11:03 UTC  

yea