Message from @pratel

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2018-09-05 02:56:26 UTC  

The biggest issue i see with both parties and voters is the desire for instant results

2018-09-05 02:56:39 UTC  

thats why short term solutions are more frequent

2018-09-05 02:57:27 UTC  

I think it's that fundamentally, we tend to be voting on things in massive bundles and there's alot of stuff that the government just shouldn't be getting into in the first place. So they tend to do things poorly.

2018-09-05 02:58:00 UTC  

Some stuff should just be left to the states

2018-09-05 02:58:03 UTC  

You can't really be too selective on the core issues. Particularly when the parties are so uniform.

2018-09-05 02:58:14 UTC  

Agreed. Most stuff, in fact.

2018-09-05 02:58:37 UTC  

the problem with this is when nothing is consistent

2018-09-05 02:58:47 UTC  

ie gun laws

2018-09-05 02:59:08 UTC  

People willl always make that complaint though.

2018-09-05 02:59:12 UTC  

my biggest gripe with gun laws is that they have little consistency between states

2018-09-05 02:59:13 UTC  

It's a way of imposing will.

2018-09-05 02:59:47 UTC  

Yeah, but would you want your laws dictated by someone really far away with very different values than you?

2018-09-05 03:00:15 UTC  

Like i mentioned previously regarding the environment, i think the government should provide basic standards at the least

2018-09-05 03:00:37 UTC  

Congress is elected the way it is for a reason

2018-09-05 03:01:28 UTC  

they might be more detached than our state reps/senators, etc. but the voters put them there

2018-09-05 03:01:43 UTC  

the issue is bureaucracy

2018-09-05 03:01:56 UTC  

its massive

2018-09-05 03:02:02 UTC  

Agreed.

2018-09-05 03:02:05 UTC  

and alot of it is red tape

2018-09-05 03:02:13 UTC  

But the reps and senators are a big mixed bag too.

2018-09-05 03:02:20 UTC  

And they can get rather creative.

2018-09-05 03:02:31 UTC  

oh i know

2018-09-05 03:02:44 UTC  

we need better ways to hold them acocuntable

2018-09-05 03:02:52 UTC  

Like Beto "I support the 2nd amendment" O'Rouke who signed onto that semi-auto ban that passed around Congress recently.

2018-09-05 03:02:57 UTC  

with the internet it should be easier

2018-09-05 03:03:08 UTC  

I don't think that's really how it works though.

2018-09-05 03:03:18 UTC  

The final option of holding acocuntability is a gun to the back of your head

2018-09-05 03:03:19 UTC  

I mean, you get two choices.

2018-09-05 03:03:27 UTC  

Some people think it's an issue of 2 parties.

2018-09-05 03:03:28 UTC  

Semi-auto ie EVERYTHING

2018-09-05 03:03:31 UTC  

As long as you have that option.

2018-09-05 03:03:50 UTC  

i mean its a whole host of issues really

2018-09-05 03:03:51 UTC  

Heres the thing, dems treat anyone right of mao like shit nowadays

2018-09-05 03:03:59 UTC  

Yep. That's why it's so disingenuous when his shills go around Reddit saying he supports gun rights.

2018-09-05 03:04:15 UTC  

Obvious lie. But I doubt he's the only one.

2018-09-05 03:04:29 UTC  

And I doubt the paid activists are that honest either.

2018-09-05 03:04:44 UTC  

And they have all the time in the world to manipulate social media.

2018-09-05 03:04:45 UTC  

I do think that the Dems have sane people among them but they are to small to make a difference

2018-09-05 03:04:51 UTC  

or scared

2018-09-05 03:04:55 UTC  

So the internet doesn't necessarily help

2018-09-05 03:05:01 UTC  

It's more an issue of logistics.