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interesting read if you haven't seen it already. not sure who this guy is though
so if humans are corruptible why have a government?
socialists should get the chopping block right along with the commies
as to what we should be fighting against, socialism is the line, communism is just even worse socialism
the state ownership of the means of production
that's your definition. i've asked many socialists what socialism is and they all give me different answers because muh "it wasn't real socialism"
there is massive overlap between socialism and communism
>Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and workers' control of the means of production; as well as the political ideologies, theories, and movements that aim to establish them. Social ownership may refer to forms of public, collective, or cooperative ownership; to citizen ownership of equity; or to any combination of these. Although there are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them, social ownership is the common element shared by its various forms.
that text book definition is still agreeing with what i said
you think communist is strictly state planned, yet anarcho communists would disagree
i didn't say there was anything sane about anarcho-communism
i know that, families are socialistic by nature
i guess i could clear it up by specifically being against political socialists in this case
socialists can go be voluntarily socialists for all i care, it'll just crumble anyway, but when they try to take my money into it is when they need to fuck off
i meant political socialists from the beginning but i didn't communicate that well
he was right about the guy on the end being stupid
the old, "you're young and you'll change to my position" line
i've been having people say that to me for years about any position i had
they think political socialism is a good thing
i don't want my pay check given to other people. i worked for it, others should keep their hands off it
as though because something has been funded through taxation (badly to ad to that) then it must continue to
it just makes people violating the right in the wrong
"a central authority told me it was ok for me to take your pay check because it's for the greater good, and the greater good is for it to fund something you don't want"
i would like to pay a protection agency voluntarily. government is not voluntary
you never refute my point, only give me some bad consequence you think will happen
except you have no proof it will. those are the same things people said about slavery
do what is right, not what you think will keep propping up soceity
i'd rather live in a society with consistency than consequentialism
the question is if we should try to fix society
yes, if you remove cancer, the sickness is cured
are you seriously suggesting that being religious, regardless of the religion, is better than being an atheist because of a meme picture?
>still relying on memes and picture to make arguments for you
you memed and we asked if you were serious, so you said you weren't, i asked for arguments and you didn't give much of one
he doesn't even believe in satan, are you dense?
@Void none of these are arguments. it's a shit fest
there were no arguments. just bait and counter bait. a shit fest
arguments have substance, nobody provided any. if you all want to go actually argue go ahead, i don't want to
again, too dense to realize he is not an actual satanist
and anarchy is literally joking about hailing satan, with no real relation to satanism as a religion
yet you bring it up as though it needs to be addressed
In a covenant...among proprietor and community tenants for the purpose of protecting their private property, no such thing as a right to free (unlimited) speech exists, not even to unlimited speech on one’s own tenant-property. One may say innumerable things and promote almost any idea under the sun, but naturally no one is permitted to advocate ideas contrary to the very covenant of preserving and protecting private property, such as democracy and communism. There can be no tolerance toward democrats and communists in a libertarian social order. They will have to be physically separated and removed from society.
he basically said it was natural to want to fuck 14 year olds
he considers pedos to be people who want under 13 year olds
again, he considers pedophilia to be people who want sub 13 year old kids
yes, fuck that guy. it's just that for some reason milo thought he should be defending his position on the issue rather than just agreeing that we shouldn't fuck underage people
thunderfoot is so retarded he thought "we the people" was a trump slogan
glad milo apologized, he should've been more clear and not fucking around with that subject
she doesn't even consider herself conservative
though that has nothing to do with free speech
i'd rather not everybody need to go to pol, that would never work
you think the US hasn't felt the effects of communism?
the US government has been infiltrated by communists since WWII
@trngl a lot of founding fathers were shitty, like Washington. he is overrated
iron age sounds like death from infection after getting a hang nail
on the thread, is putting 3rd party sites not what was getting them banned in the first place?
then why are there links to 3rd party sites if you don't want it to get banned for advertising?
for the 3rd time, why are you putting 3rd party sites in the OP when that got them banned before?
put all the links in a pastebin so you don't get them banned for advertising
then put it in the OP and don't put all the other ones in the OP
it's not about you getting banned, it's about future threads getting banned
if you keep breaking the rules, they'll just ban them immediately when they see them next time
maybe we should hold off on a moto until we prove ourselves
cantwell is still an-cap.. he has the flag on his set still and in the About section on his site it says he is an-cap
why is it that any time some libertarian embraces hoppean ideas that idiots say "he isn't an anarchist any more, he is super right wing"
they do the same thing to molyneux, even when he still says he is a voluntarist and that he isn't right wing
do people not have the mental capacity to realize that these things aren't mutually exclusive?
doesn't really have anything to do with my complaint
Hoppe has been saying we need to remove undesirables from society for a long time (in a stateless society) on principal, this doesn't make him "right wing" or a statist
so now that molyneux and cantwell start saying things similar to hoppe, now they get called right wing and statist
not against voluntarism if those people are a threat
it's just that the purposeful mischaracterization of people's positions just to make themselves feel better about their own views, is retarded
i don't have enough tomahawks to get rid of all of the strawman-ers
i just want them to stop being bad at arguments and thinking
i know, but what else can i say, other than to call them retards and tell them to stop
i'm sure they don't even understand the socratic method
this is why i generally don't engage them. they can't stay on topic
also, it's kind of hard to use the socratic method with a person who is unwilling to participate
hard to escape it. i would say that i want to go into academia, but it's not like it's a huge step up, but at least the platform for debate is more defined at a college that isn't taken over by communists
plus, i'd be willing to go in and combat them, somebody has to keep them from having a monopoly on it
inspiring some students can change their minds for the better and add more people to our way of thinking
yeah, the only way to get in is to lay low till you get tenure
i've spoken with professors who have done that, it's kind of the only way i think
hard to do that in a school with opposite views, it's a fast way to get fired
i think i'd be happier doing research and teaching students
i'm good at convincing people of things in a 1 on 1 format, or small group
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