https://storify.com/sphenoid/days-of-rage-pt-5-finale-what-does-it-portend

interesting read if you haven't seen it already. not sure who this guy is though

collection lists is all petitions are

so if humans are corruptible why have a government?

>compromise

no thanks

hopefully not

socialism and communism are barely different

none of it is tolerable

socialists should get the chopping block right along with the commies

as to what we should be fighting against, socialism is the line, communism is just even worse socialism

the state ownership of the means of production

i guess lower being Sanders

that's your definition. i've asked many socialists what socialism is and they all give me different answers because muh "it wasn't real socialism"

there is massive overlap between socialism and communism

>Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and workers' control of the means of production;[10] as well as the political ideologies, theories, and movements that aim to establish them.[11] Social ownership may refer to forms of public, collective, or cooperative ownership; to citizen ownership of equity; or to any combination of these.[12] Although there are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them,[13] social ownership is the common element shared by its various forms.[5][14][15]

that text book definition is still agreeing with what i said

yeah

you think communist is strictly state planned, yet anarcho communists would disagree

i didn't say there was anything sane about anarcho-communism

i know that, families are socialistic by nature

i guess i could clear it up by specifically being against political socialists in this case

socialists can go be voluntarily socialists for all i care, it'll just crumble anyway, but when they try to take my money into it is when they need to fuck off

i meant political socialists from the beginning but i didn't communicate that well

because i was talking about nazism

natsoc out of left field?

that was the original question

me? no

i was just arguing against it

he was right about the guy on the end being stupid

well, all of them, but in particular that one

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u srs

shit posting and memes just make me more mad

i don't find most of it funny, just stupid

the old, "you're young and you'll change to my position" line

i've been having people say that to me for years about any position i had

post

i tried to tell them @Post-Mortem Boredom

they think political socialism is a good thing

i don't want my pay check given to other people. i worked for it, others should keep their hands off it

muh roads

as though because something has been funded through taxation (badly to ad to that) then it must continue to

at the expense of people's rights

to their own pay check

self ownership is not created by the state

you can't uphold rights by violating them

you can say that but it doesn't make it true

it just makes people violating the right in the wrong

consequentialism is cancer

"a central authority told me it was ok for me to take your pay check because it's for the greater good, and the greater good is for it to fund something you don't want"

i would like to pay a protection agency voluntarily. government is not voluntary

you never refute my point, only give me some bad consequence you think will happen

bad argumentation

yes, sorry

except you have no proof it will. those are the same things people said about slavery

do what is right, not what you think will keep propping up soceity

i'd rather live in a society with consistency than consequentialism

again, not addressing my point

that's not the question

the question is if we should try to fix society

not "then you don't belong anywhere"

@Tee CA no disagreement there

yes, if you remove cancer, the sickness is cured

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SMX21w8J4Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fla-QobHzwg&feature=youtu.be&t=35

oh god. not that guy

are you seriously suggesting that being religious, regardless of the religion, is better than being an atheist because of a meme picture?

i don't know what he is implying

potent for sure

>2017

>still relying on memes and picture to make arguments for you

i'm not triggered

what are you even going on about

least compelling arguments

waste of my time to discuss

i gave you a chance

you failed miserably

you memed and we asked if you were serious, so you said you weren't, i asked for arguments and you didn't give much of one

go draw

he doesn't even believe in satan, are you dense?

@Void none of these are arguments. it's a shit fest

there were no arguments. just bait and counter bait. a shit fest

of retardation

arguments have substance, nobody provided any. if you all want to go actually argue go ahead, i don't want to

666

again, too dense to realize he is not an actual satanist

and anarchy is literally joking about hailing satan, with no real relation to satanism as a religion

yet you bring it up as though it needs to be addressed

pretty much

can't believe they quoted Cantwell

that guy is such a mess

they're not remakes

@Chancellor he didn't

i can see that this discussion is useless

you see the tag, VET IMMEDIATELY

i'm CIA

yes, i'm very special