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2019-07-26 03:35:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #members-log]  

2019-07-26 03:43:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I believe the issue here isnโ€™t the question of whether or not itโ€™s an โ€œillegal immigrantโ€, but the degree of which they are an asylum seeker. Using the USA as an example, it is a right underneath US law to humanitarian protection as long as they enter via an official port of entry-which you will find a significant amount of people who are doing so do.

2019-07-26 03:53:14 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

In an vacuum, where there are no external forces acting on the objects, the inertia of an object is sustained, and if there was no gravity, if you jumped you would just keep accelerating upwards at the same speed

2019-07-26 04:30:11 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Wait what

2019-07-26 04:30:19 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Isnโ€™t the Mandela effect the name given to false memories

2019-07-26 04:34:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I highly doubt most alternate earth model believers can fully explain the aspects in which their world model revolves around either.

2019-07-26 04:36:38 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Some with your bare eyes

2019-07-26 04:36:41 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Like Venus.

2019-07-26 04:37:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Plasma is more accurate, to be honest.

2019-07-26 04:37:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Polaris isnโ€™t our sun? Iโ€™m not aware of how that is an argument.

2019-07-26 04:38:44 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Itโ€™s positioned close to the line of the axis of which earth is tilted

2019-07-26 04:39:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Does the disk rotate in flat earth?

2019-07-26 04:41:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Like we said, that is due to Polaris is positioned almost perfectly north of the axis tilt.

2019-07-26 04:42:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

North of the earth at this position is, well, the North Pole. And because this tilt does not change (at least not significantly), it will always appear to be in the same location.

2019-07-26 04:42:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Itโ€™s akin to turning on the spot, but keeping your head turned to look at a certain object or such

2019-07-26 04:42:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

The object does not move

2019-07-26 04:42:44 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

But you are moving.

2019-07-26 04:43:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

As for the rest of the Stars, this is because they are not lined up with our axis. There are billions of trillions of stars, definitely more, actually

2019-07-26 04:48:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

The earth rotates on an axis which does not move. This creates the day night cycles. As it does so, the entire thing moves around the sun, constantly pointed in the direction of Polaris. Polaris is extremely large, but extraordinary far away-however, it has been observed in history that it *does* move away from the North Pole, due to the *Axis* changing over time.

2019-07-26 04:48:11 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

As for why we cannot feel it, thereโ€™s a simple explanation for it!

2019-07-26 04:48:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Have you ever been in a revolving restaurant?

2019-07-26 04:48:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I have, several times. In Sydney tower, specifically.

2019-07-26 04:49:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

It moves at a constant pace, and at a *slow* enough pace, which is why we cannot feel it. We are absolutely tiny compared to the surface, as well.

2019-07-26 04:50:00 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Think about it like this

2019-07-26 04:50:09 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Have you ever been in a car, or train?

2019-07-26 04:50:34 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Once they start cruising, youโ€™ll notice you cannot feel the push against you.

2019-07-26 04:50:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Once you hit a completely constant speed, you cannot feel the force of wind and such push against you

2019-07-26 04:52:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

On the contrary, thatโ€™s because a train cannot hit a perfect speed.

2019-07-26 04:52:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

It should also be considered that the earth is not perfectly round. It is slightly squished at the equator-a bulge, in which festeringโ€™s joke of โ€œelliptical earthโ€ is actually correct!

2019-07-26 04:54:00 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

On the contrary, not quite. Anyway, let me continue.

2019-07-26 04:56:52 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Oh gods, if only it was as simple as density. Gravity is dependent on mass, specifically. It acts on mass, which is why on different planets you weigh differently.

2019-07-26 04:58:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Weight, on the other hand, is entirely different thing to gravity. What makes you feel heavy, and what makes you feel constantly pressing against the ground, is a mixture of gravity, and the effect of acceleration away from earth, the reverse of gravity, so to speak.

2019-07-26 05:00:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Itโ€™s not so much that they would float.

2019-07-26 05:00:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

As I explained in the flat earth channel

2019-07-26 05:00:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

In an vacuum, where there are no external forces acting on the objects, the inertia of an object is sustained, and if there was no gravity, if you jumped you would just keep accelerating upwards at the same speed

2019-07-26 05:00:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Buoyancy is nothing to do with gravity, specifically.

2019-07-26 05:03:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I can understand why the earth is round, because of the overwhelming evidence that supports it, as well as myself owning a basketball and being capable of looking at it closely.

2019-07-26 05:04:05 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

This, as well as the fact that it is a falsehood that โ€œmost ancient civilisations believed the earth was flatโ€.

2019-07-26 05:05:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

With a camera? Or with editing software?

2019-07-26 05:05:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Because if itโ€™s to do with editing software, you can make pizza look like a woman. Itโ€™s not a reliable source.

2019-07-26 05:06:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

The fish eye effect, even when removed, can still show the curvature of the earth-itโ€™s just extra ordinarily small. Because the earth is simply enormous.

2019-07-26 05:10:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

The reason why ships disappear is because of the globe, however, it is not the entire solution. Using a different example, if one were to stand in the middle of a pair of rail lines, it will appear that the two tracks are converging as you look farther and farther away until they just disappear. However, this is due to the way human sight works, rather than the case with the earth.

2019-07-26 05:10:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Iโ€™m not done yet.

2019-07-26 05:11:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

It *is* proof.

2019-07-26 05:15:48 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

When viewed through a telescope, the rail lines can be seen a lot further, but it still does eventually disappear. No amount of zooming on a camera can fix this, which begs the question-where do they go, if the earth is truely flat?
There is another aspect. Refraction. Specifically refraction by the air in the atmosphere. Some part of the ship will remain visible for longer due to refraction, which can be observed as the sun is setting.

2019-07-26 05:16:41 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

There was a rather interesting experiment held involving refraction. Refraction, unfortunately, negates some arguments of the flat earth.

2019-07-26 05:18:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Anyway

2019-07-26 05:19:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Like I explained, itโ€™s due to atmospheric refraction, which actually actively works against flat earth.

2019-07-26 05:20:54 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Unfortunately, no.

2019-07-26 05:23:06 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Did you actually read the article

2019-07-26 05:23:11 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Itโ€™s more complicated than that

2019-07-26 05:24:34 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Light curves due to gravity, actually.

2019-07-26 05:25:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

On the contrary, yes!
The existence of black holes proves this.

2019-07-26 05:25:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

There has been a photo of a black hole.

2019-07-26 05:26:11 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

And yet, your evidence is based on photography, as well as-Ah, yes

2019-07-26 05:27:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Your โ€œeyesโ€. Which are both faultless, and faulty, depending on whatever is most convenient.

2019-07-26 05:28:16 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

The dollar bills are designed as to maximise difficulty with replicating it.

2019-07-26 05:28:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Of course there are many hidden aspects in them.

2019-07-26 05:29:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Yes, it is. Historically money fabricating was a massive issue. I donโ€™t see whatโ€™s so strange about adding more designs so itโ€™s trickier to copy.

2019-07-26 05:30:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Otherwise if they indeed were just slips of blank green paper with a number printed on them, it wouldnโ€™t take much, if any effort to copy.

2019-07-26 05:31:11 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I mean, most of these theories are simply antisemetic in roots, so?

2019-07-26 05:31:33 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Illuminati, lizard people, most of these conspiracies are linked explicitly towards jewish people, so

2019-07-26 05:32:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

....jewish people.

2019-07-26 05:32:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Zionists are jewish who wish for a jewish homeland.

2019-07-26 05:32:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Therefore, jewish.

2019-07-26 05:32:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

It isnโ€™t a big difference.

2019-07-26 05:33:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

โ€œZionism (Hebrew: ืฆึดื™ึผื•ึนื ื•ึผืช Tsiyyonut [tอกsijoฬžหˆnut] after Zion) is the nationalist movement of the Jewish people that supports the re-establishment and maintenance of a Jewish homeland in the territory defined as the historic Land of Israel (roughly corresponding to Canaan, the Holy Land, or the region of Palestine).โ€
10 seconds for a google search.

2019-07-26 05:34:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

*pinches brow* how do you have no sense of self awareness....the antisemitism...literally right there....

2019-07-26 05:35:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

We must rise up against children with leukaemia!!!!

2019-07-26 05:36:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

And I never said it was racism, but I suppose strawman is the favourite diet of the conspiracy โ€œtheoristโ€

2019-07-26 05:38:59 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I know you didnโ€™t use it as an argument, but I didnโ€™t use that to argue against you. I only made a joke lol

2019-07-26 05:39:09 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

if i were to use that against you as an argument, i would be strawmanning.

2019-07-26 05:39:16 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

>thinks discord chat is a debate

2019-07-26 05:39:48 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

To be fair it is a debate of whether or not humanity is worth keeping around

2019-07-26 05:40:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

And on the contrary, I think my joke was quite funny

2019-07-26 05:40:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

It was your joke, actually

2019-07-26 05:41:16 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Anyway.

2019-07-26 05:42:06 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

https://youtu.be/2gFsOoKAHZg this video has some rather interesting points, and considers flat earth arguments, as well as being entertaining.

2019-07-26 05:44:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Climate change, mostly.

2019-07-26 05:46:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

No, itโ€™s caused mostly by air pollution, with a whole bunch of stuff in the remaining percentage.

2019-07-26 05:46:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Also, that video quite literally splices a whole bunch of videos....from news sites.

2019-07-26 05:46:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Literally

2019-07-26 05:48:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Because of capitalism, not lizards, for crying out loud.

2019-07-26 05:49:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Itโ€™s because rich people want to make more money, and the oil industry is one of the biggest ones out there, but the fossil fuel industry is directly related to climate change

2019-07-26 05:49:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

And if climate change is actually worked upon, they would actively lose money

2019-07-26 05:52:05 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Please stop bringing out the antisemitic conspiracy diagrams, this is just embarrassing.

2019-07-26 05:52:54 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Yes, I do. Because Iโ€™ve actually gone down a rabbit hole reading a lot of these theories, and most have an antisemitic root to them.

2019-07-26 05:53:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I chose to be, as after reading said theories, I realised they were filled with falsehoods.

2019-07-26 05:53:54 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

And are like, again, inherently based to hate jews

2019-07-26 05:54:51 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

For starters. I am entirely certain that these are false, but have a seed of truth in them. You are simply targeting and believing the wrong names and people.

2019-07-26 05:54:59 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

It is not the zionists

2019-07-26 05:55:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Or the lizard people.

2019-07-26 05:55:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Their names arenโ€™t well known, but perhaps you know the groupโ€™s. One of which is Disney.

2019-07-26 05:55:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

*groups

2019-07-26 05:55:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

If you think itโ€™s funny, consider this.

2019-07-26 05:56:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

They hold complete power over the abc broadcasting group

2019-07-26 05:56:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

And the related news networks

2019-07-26 05:56:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

As well as fox

2019-07-26 05:56:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

And espn.

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