Message from @AlexTheLad217

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2019-10-21 15:08:25 UTC  

the soviets would have lost the war if america did not enter

2019-10-21 15:09:16 UTC  

not because they were tech illiterate but because they did not have the resources to beat germany on their own

2019-10-21 15:10:09 UTC  

Probably not. The effect of lend lease was limited due to the fact that transportation of those supplies was relegated to train(and they had to actively build more tracks) as well as the fact that the Soviets didn't have many convienent ports that could then be used to move those supplies

2019-10-21 15:10:22 UTC  

lmao

2019-10-21 15:10:28 UTC  

thats absolute cope

2019-10-21 15:10:42 UTC  

Trucks were unreliable due to the fact that the soviets had shit infrustricture

2019-10-21 15:11:03 UTC  

Literally the soviet infrastructure was almost none

2019-10-21 15:11:10 UTC  

Looks like the americans didn’t bother bringing most of their id till the germans we’re effectively stalemated. But I will say again what resources america did provide in 1941-2 were vital things such as high-octane fuel and trucks.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/587015719141507102/635857621559279616/image0.png

2019-10-21 15:11:37 UTC  

What’s absolute cope is you thinking the germans couldn’t possibly have lost the war to the soviets without the entire world supporting the ussr

2019-10-21 15:11:40 UTC  

I can see the high octane fhel

2019-10-21 15:11:44 UTC  

Fuel

2019-10-21 15:12:27 UTC  

no germans could have''possibly lost the war'' but they would have definitely beat the soviet union

2019-10-21 15:13:46 UTC  

anyway
we have yet to see how striving for autarky has a causal realtionship with stunting a nation in any meaningful way

2019-10-21 15:17:49 UTC  

Actual cope addict

2019-10-21 15:18:22 UTC  

and yeah im just realising now that the germans definitely weren't about to defeat the soviet union and thats why the united states decided to fund them with massive amounts of resources despite being assured of their victory

2019-10-21 15:19:04 UTC  

lmao

2019-10-21 15:19:10 UTC  

even stalin agrees

2019-10-21 15:19:11 UTC  

Joseph Stalin, during the Tehran Conference during 1943, acknowledged publicly the importance of American efforts during a dinner at the conference: "Without American machines the United Nations could never have won the war."[45][46]

In a confidential interview with the wartime correspondent Konstantin Simonov, the Soviet Marshal Georgy Zhukov is quoted as saying:

Today [1963] some say the Allies didn't really help us ... But listen, one cannot deny that the Americans shipped over to us material without which we could not have equipped our armies held in reserve or been able to continue the war.[47]

2019-10-21 15:19:24 UTC  

Just like how it was obvious the germans were about to destroy the royal navy and invade Britain after 1940 so they give Britain a bunch of aid as well

2019-10-21 15:19:43 UTC  

And the fúcking stalin quote

2019-10-21 15:19:50 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/587015719141507102/635859801506709554/1561805614878.jpg

2019-10-21 15:20:09 UTC  

britain in its own would have lost to germany

2019-10-21 15:20:25 UTC  

also

2019-10-21 15:20:36 UTC  

britain and the united states were ideological allies

2019-10-21 15:20:53 UTC  

the ussr was largely hostile to the USA

2019-10-21 15:21:29 UTC  

They were still our practical ally that we supported more than we should have in retrovision

2019-10-21 15:21:56 UTC  

Unlike the axis the allies actually worked together despite ideological differences to defeat germany

2019-10-21 15:22:01 UTC  

If there's ever a ww3 I can guarantee US and whatever proceeds the USSR will be allies

2019-10-21 15:22:16 UTC  

yes
but im just wondering why the US would arm an enemy if they were going to win?

2019-10-21 15:22:33 UTC  

They couldn't win without the USSR completely not on their side

2019-10-21 15:22:49 UTC  

Because it’s better to have well equipped soviet bleed than Americans

2019-10-21 15:23:00 UTC  

A 2 front war made the goal of victory much easier to obtain

2019-10-21 15:23:46 UTC  

well why not let them bleed some more?, its not like they needed the help or anything, right?

2019-10-21 15:24:26 UTC  

The Soviets could've steamrolled all the way to France

2019-10-21 15:24:30 UTC  

lmao

2019-10-21 15:24:42 UTC  

on what?

2019-10-21 15:25:04 UTC  

That's why the Americans opened a 2 front war, they supplied the USSR with the capability to invade so they could've left it to them

2019-10-21 15:25:06 UTC  

were they gonna use tanks powered only by the will of the proletariat?

2019-10-21 15:25:21 UTC  

But both British and Americans didn't want the USSR in Western Europe

2019-10-21 15:25:37 UTC  

nah if patton had his way ussr would have been toast, but they killed him first