Message from @AlexTheLad217
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the soviets would have lost the war if america did not enter
not because they were tech illiterate but because they did not have the resources to beat germany on their own
Probably not. The effect of lend lease was limited due to the fact that transportation of those supplies was relegated to train(and they had to actively build more tracks) as well as the fact that the Soviets didn't have many convienent ports that could then be used to move those supplies
lmao
thats absolute cope
Trucks were unreliable due to the fact that the soviets had shit infrustricture
Literally the soviet infrastructure was almost none
Looks like the americans didn’t bother bringing most of their id till the germans we’re effectively stalemated. But I will say again what resources america did provide in 1941-2 were vital things such as high-octane fuel and trucks.

What’s absolute cope is you thinking the germans couldn’t possibly have lost the war to the soviets without the entire world supporting the ussr
I can see the high octane fhel
Fuel
no germans could have''possibly lost the war'' but they would have definitely beat the soviet union
anyway
we have yet to see how striving for autarky has a causal realtionship with stunting a nation in any meaningful way
Actual cope addict
and yeah im just realising now that the germans definitely weren't about to defeat the soviet union and thats why the united states decided to fund them with massive amounts of resources despite being assured of their victory
lmao
even stalin agrees
Joseph Stalin, during the Tehran Conference during 1943, acknowledged publicly the importance of American efforts during a dinner at the conference: "Without American machines the United Nations could never have won the war."[45][46]
In a confidential interview with the wartime correspondent Konstantin Simonov, the Soviet Marshal Georgy Zhukov is quoted as saying:
    Today [1963] some say the Allies didn't really help us ... But listen, one cannot deny that the Americans shipped over to us material without which we could not have equipped our armies held in reserve or been able to continue the war.[47]
Just like how it was obvious the germans were about to destroy the royal navy and invade Britain after 1940 so they give Britain a bunch of aid as well
britain in its own would have lost to germany
also
britain and the united states were ideological allies
the ussr was largely hostile to the USA
They were still our practical ally that we supported more than we should have in retrovision
Unlike the axis the allies actually worked together despite ideological differences to defeat germany
If there's ever a ww3 I can guarantee US and whatever proceeds the USSR will be allies
yes
but im just wondering why the US would arm an enemy if they were going to win?
They couldn't win without the USSR completely not on their side
Because it’s better to have well equipped soviet bleed than Americans
A 2 front war made the goal of victory much easier to obtain
well why not let them bleed some more?, its not like they needed the help or anything, right?
The Soviets could've steamrolled all the way to France
lmao
on what?
That's why the Americans opened a 2 front war, they supplied the USSR with the capability to invade so they could've left it to them
were they gonna use tanks powered only by the will of the proletariat?
But both British and Americans didn't want the USSR in Western Europe
nah if patton had his way ussr would have been toast, but they killed him first
