is this another troll channel or are there actual believers in the flat earth here?

you?

so why are you here?

an inquiring mind or a trolling one? just curious

i watched a youtube video where some boys were trolling a flat earth channel

i wanted to find that channel. i don't think this is it

i do 😄

indeed

believe in it? is Australia an entity? that's not much of a question

Sure, I suppose Im not in a position to argue against it. Nations are just groups of people usually in a body politic. I believe there is a nation named that, yes. I also believe there is a piece of soil under those people's feet that they call Australia

You're attempting to win an argument on a simpleton's question. I'll give you an accurate answer

good one

feeling the burn

troll

you smarty pants think you have science 😄 lol I proved my table was a sphere with your intellectualism

you can prove your dinner table is a ball too! go do it

not to be confused with scrotum tables you sick he-she goat

@S̸̰͕̍a̶͓͗̈́́t̸̙̠̋ȧ̷̻͘͠n̸̗͇̈́́ is like a troll's troll

im both hating and liking it

back to the abyss

tooo late for that, he's bringing with him 1/3 of his contemporaries

just dont fall after him

q7w i dont know if i have to have permission myself

@Q7W I find Polaris as we observe it to be an impossibility in any model other then a geocentric one.

is it possible to be both flat earth and heliocentric?

seems the two are diametrically opposed.

no bother at all. it confirms my understanding. Im happy to be in that position 😃

extend your hand and point at an object in the room. move you finger left or right an inch. how far did that object have to travel to catch your finger? a few feet? do the same thing with the Moon now. An inch translates to dozens of thousands of miles to it. This compounds the further it is away. Point to Polaris and move your finger an inch... It is supposedly 433 light-years away. How far does it have to travel to meet your finger? That's only an inch... Now take the Earth and tilt it several times a year every year. Either you believe Polaris is keeping perfect perpendicular synchronicity with Earths pole as it tilts (over thousands of light years of travel) or.... its not moving at all --- just as we observe.

over thousands of years its exactly where all of our ancestors expected it to be every day and night. special instruments and calculations are the only thing supporting that it is moving at all. it certainly is not moving as it would have to to be 433 light years away and remain due north for all known history

its not only the tilt, its the orbit and all movement. the other stars don't remain in one single place so they are much easier explained in alternative ways - but Polaris remains

6 months time is a WILD amount of distance and time in orbit and tilt

okay here is another one

lets say the time is 12:00 noon. Lets factor away daylight savings time or leap year etc

every day has 24 hours in it, right?

What time of day is it from 12:00 noon in 182 days?

182 full days. or 182 full rotations (right?)

okay lets forget time. the sun is exactly overhead. where will the sun be in exactly 182 full rotations?

youre trying to predict where i am going

its simple

one day is one rotation

noon today will be noon tomorrow in one full day (or a full rotation as heliocentric folks would call it)

anway youre trying to overcomplicate it. it is a trick, as you are predicting

of course what we see and know is true is that every day is 12 hours

sorry 24 hours

but in the heliocentric model the answer is rediculously only possible that in 182 days (complete rotations) would be MIDNIGHT

youre calculations would have to account for 12 hours difference every 6 months. but of course that does not happen, obviously. our watches still count 24 hours each day

youre still not getting it. in the globe earth model it MUST be midnight exactly 182 days from noon on one day

of course we know 182 days from noon today will be noon on that day

no

lol this is simple

you need pictures in your books. let me draw it

Im here @Sauce

I was drawing my explaination

@Fading https://ibb.co/41J2MTQ

any problem with the quiz answers? @Fading

i didnt say antying about 24 hours

or any of that

im not talking about time other than the position of the sun and the position of the earth. which happens to be how they divide time

noon is a time. it doesnt have to have an hour. noon is when the sun is overhead. 12:00 is just a number we have associated to it. but its still going to be that the sun is overhead from noon today till noon tomorrow and in half a year from now, right? that is if we do in fact presume a day is a full rotation.

the most important question is #1

lol

youre missing the point

is it noon or not

i dont care how many vibrations you've calculated the earth to have or what harmonic frequency you think it resonates at. this is a simple question

and what time in 182 earth rotations will it be?

omg

we ALL know its noon

i didnt say the floor is rotating

@Fading whats your best guess

@Human Sheeple what exactly are you talking about? I feel no motion, either.

youre a fool

please tell me what you mean @Human Sheeple , I didnt say anything about the floor moving

thats everything i said and took the time to illustrate. you're trying to make this complicated. its not. of course the answer is noon @Fading we observe the days to be 24 hours each day (maybe fractionally off) but the problem is that cannot be possible in the heliocentric model. which is why you're spinning the answer

This is why @Fading , youre not taking into account that the Earth is supposedly now on the other side of the Sun in its "orbit" now. In the heliocentric model --- the correct answer that in 182 days it would be MIDNIGHT. https://ibb.co/pbgbFpz

i believe the earth is both round and flat

just like a pancake

lol this is why youre confused Folly. I did not mention a year. Youre starting to see that your model doesnt not work. I said days. and still i promise in 182 days it will be 182, 24 hour periods, and it will be noon at that time.

of course. just like every day

every week. every month. and every year.

but the heliocentric model says it must be midnight

@Human Sheeple I dont know what your position is

and i dont think you have any clue what mine is

what is your position on this topic @Human Sheeple . ive been laying out mine and youre coming into it late in the game. i think youre barking up the wrong tree, to be honest

lol @Fading thanks

@Fading i think he will now think we agree on everything since i was cordial with you in my last

@Human Sheeple Man, i think you and i agree in most ways

@Human Sheeple I have a video proving my dinner table is a sphere

its not an optical illusion. its just how optics work

i need to remake this, its a short video i made showing how items "set over the horizon" of my dinner table. Of course this shows how the same thing happens on a flat surface and arguing ships go over the horizon is proof of nothing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYwQSElWyns&feature=youtu.be

yes thats my video

Yes that does it also

dude's catfishing @Алекса́ндр Васи́льевич Колча́к ? lol

and easy