Qthulhu42

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2018-01-06 16:28:43 UTC [Realism #general]  

Is this server _exclusively_ for those with alt-right views

2018-01-06 16:30:09 UTC [Realism #general]  

My wha

2018-01-06 16:32:41 UTC [Realism #general]  

Does alt-right imply ethnostatism?

2018-01-06 16:35:54 UTC [Realism #general]  

Okay

2018-01-06 16:37:25 UTC [Realism #general]  

When you say 'white identity', is that a cultural thing? Does a white person who had black adoptive parents have that? What about someone whose parents are of different races?

2018-01-06 16:38:14 UTC [Realism #general]  

I see

2018-01-06 16:38:55 UTC [Realism #general]  

Can the case for ethnostatism be put concisely?

2018-01-06 16:48:56 UTC [Realism #general]  

Well, it's quite a nebulous term

2018-01-06 16:49:36 UTC [Realism #general]  

The left-media are very quick to label people who aren't necessarily ethnostatists as alt-right

2018-01-06 16:50:46 UTC [Realism #general]  

My current understanding of altright is basically Richard spencer and thegoldenone

2018-01-06 16:51:36 UTC [Realism #general]  

Which is why I come here.

2018-01-06 16:52:38 UTC [Realism #general]  

What does 'self-determination' entail? Why is it desirable, and how does an ethnostate help achieve it?

2018-01-06 16:53:31 UTC [Realism #general]  

But why are 'white people' a homogeneous group?

2018-01-06 16:53:49 UTC [Realism #general]  

Why not sports team fans, religions, etc

2018-01-06 16:55:43 UTC [Realism #general]  

When you say white people need to secure their share, what if a small group of white people gain a lot of wealth and influence while the majority do not? The group as a whole may still be benefited.

2018-01-06 16:56:44 UTC [Realism #general]  

I'm not talking about wealth inequality generally here

2018-01-06 16:57:09 UTC [Realism #general]  

I'm just asking what it means for a race to secure their share

2018-01-06 16:57:43 UTC [Realism #general]  

What about them though?

2018-01-06 16:58:27 UTC [Realism #general]  

But what does 'securing' mean? Some white people own some of them?

2018-01-06 16:58:31 UTC [Realism #general]  

White

2018-01-06 16:59:12 UTC [Realism #general]  

I'm not sure what definition of the term you're using here

2018-01-06 17:00:04 UTC [Realism #general]  

No

2018-01-06 17:00:27 UTC [Realism #general]  

No

2018-01-06 17:00:43 UTC [Realism #general]  

No?

2018-01-06 17:00:51 UTC [Realism #general]  

What is your point here

2018-01-06 17:02:18 UTC [Realism #general]  

So when you say there's not enough to go around, and white people need to secure their share, you mean this kind of segregation needs to be implemented?

2018-01-06 17:04:28 UTC [Realism #general]  

It seems strange to talk about exclusively white businesses in a country that is exclusively white anyway. That's where I got confused, but now I think I get it.

2018-01-06 17:04:52 UTC [Realism #general]  

But that comes back to the question, why do races need to be separated?

2018-01-06 17:05:23 UTC [Realism #general]  

Why is it bad?

2018-01-06 17:05:34 UTC [Realism #general]  

And racial diversity? Or all diversity?

2018-01-06 17:06:05 UTC [Realism #general]  

What about diversity of ideas?

2018-01-06 17:06:42 UTC [Realism #general]  

That makes sense, but it seems more related to culture than genetics. Isn't that where these standards come from?

2018-01-06 17:07:41 UTC [Realism #general]  

When you say standards, do you mean social customs, rituals, mannerisms etc.?

2018-01-06 17:08:13 UTC [Realism #general]  

I enjoy this name

2018-01-06 17:08:40 UTC [Realism #general]  

I want to pursue my own individual interests

2018-01-06 17:10:21 UTC [Realism #general]  

But my issue is, I don't see how furthering the interests of white people necessarily benefits individual white people - for example, creating more opportunities for white people in x industry I am not involved in

2018-01-06 17:11:23 UTC [Realism #general]  

Then that would probably be in my _genetic_ self-interest, but not all white people have a relatedness factor that big

2018-01-06 17:12:58 UTC [Realism #general]  

It is, but my evolutionarily inbuilt altruism has little reason to work towards people not in my immediate family unless it gives me some reciprocal benefit, e.g. trade, virtue

2018-01-06 17:13:37 UTC [Realism #general]  

No, but I wouldn't let a white man rape a black woman.

2018-01-06 17:14:47 UTC [Realism #general]  

My point here is that the difference between me and a random white guy and me and a random black guy is fairly insignificant

2018-01-06 17:15:04 UTC [Realism #general]  

Why would certain races be inherently violent?

2018-01-06 17:15:13 UTC [Realism #general]  

How would that occur evolutionarily

2018-01-06 17:16:28 UTC [Realism #general]  

Shouldn't we then select for nonviolent genes, not skin colour genes?

2018-01-06 17:16:57 UTC [Realism #general]  

This honestly just sounds like what I hear from bad communists

2018-01-06 17:17:26 UTC [Realism #general]  

I agree, but how do you tell what race a person is?

2018-01-06 17:19:45 UTC [Realism #general]  

Any community would serve me just as well as a race, would it not?

2018-01-06 17:21:15 UTC [Realism #general]  

I'm not sure how the discrimination of other groups is relevant to the success of a nondiscriminatory group

2018-01-06 17:21:50 UTC [Realism #general]  

And surely, if it's a community I choose, rather than am born into, I can go with the one that serves me best

2018-01-06 17:25:13 UTC [Realism #general]  

I see your point, but not all groups are racially discriminatory. If the white people integrated with, say, the blacks, they would perform better

2018-01-06 17:26:53 UTC [Realism #general]  

The group they are in is larger

2018-01-06 17:28:15 UTC [Realism #general]  

Then, if they are racially exclusive, the blacks are still better than being a lone wolf, and if they're not, then the whites can choose between the two

2018-01-06 17:29:49 UTC [Realism #general]  

Sure, but how is white nationalism gonna help the 2 whites in that case?

2018-01-06 17:30:30 UTC [Realism #general]  

They already fuckd

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