Message from @realz
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Even after all that, I presented evidence to back up my points (including some of the law videos) and they still focused on irrelevant and highly limiting points
Your arguments and logic likely don't matter
Even had a current LEO come in who basically made comments that supported what i was saying (though not as direct, he is a LEO after all), and they treated what he said as gospel truth.
I know there are people who think or argue using such fallible points, but I wouldn't have imagined so many.
How do you think his case will go though? I believe he won't be charged.
I dont think we will be charged as well. Im guessing you have been following Robs videos on the subject?
As much as I can when I can. I miss his tuesday videos because of legal classes
Fair. But Rob makes really good arguments on how it can be considered self defense
And I mean looking at the videos kyle showed lots on self control when it came to the people who attacked him.
But personally the self defense claim completely relies on if the death of Rosenbaum is also considered self-defense.
If it is not deemed self-defense then kyle could be on the hook for the other folks he shot as well.
That is true. But homicide requires intent doesn't it?
At least according to statutes
@DeathRhodes666 .
"The law says that if you are violating any crime, self defense doesn't apply. Kyle was out after Curfew, and he was illegally carrying a weapon, so ..."
"Everyone who was trying to stop him was trying to stop an armed man with a gun, who murdered someone (Rosenbaum); does a school shooter get to claim self defense when kids throw themselves at him trying to stop him?"
you can find clips of Vaush and Destiny on youtube, where Vaush makes such arguments and Destiny is shaking his head slowly
(if you are a masochist)
Care to share a link please?
when I saw it, it was a clipped version, I can only find full episode versions right now
That works
I can link one of those if you are a serious masochist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_0R_aiPb-s there seems to be a few such debates, I think this is the one
@realz are you the one saying self defense doesn't apply if you're commiting a crime? Please cite law that says that...
uh I am not the one saying it, I was quoting a standin leftist. But yes, the law does say that, Robert covered it. Lemme see if I can find he law
I think it’s if you’re committing a crime against or in the process of.
And I would argue that a curfew law isn’t a criminal law
he was carrying
maybe
And additionally what is your basis for saying he was carrying a firearm illegally? He was open carrying
it is interpretable and probably has case law
Robert has said that it would probably not be constitutional to make such an argument either
That’s where we need Rob for some case law haha
I think he said he didn't know offhand
Robert brought up the constitutional response
Oh okay
if blue win, can I get political refuge in US?
He was also retreating/fleeing by most reasonable standards
Take my spot
Who is He that’s retreating or fleeing?
